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    cat: stares intently at the growling human while slowly pushing the mug off the table

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      After years of training to know what the word ‘No’ command means.

    • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world
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      Cat: I’m bored. Let’s see if I can get the hairless ape 20x my size off the couch. Ooh! I bet they can’t get over here before this hits the ground.

      :: gently pawing ceramic figurine sounds ::

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      This isn’t right or wrong; it’s a guaranteed reaction.

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    Yeah it’s bullshit. Pro-social animals like dogs, primates, elephants understand group norms and social expectations e.g. appeasement behaviour. Its probably how our own “morality” developed as a species.

    And there’s evidence to suggest some species like dolphins absolutely do exhibit moral type behaviour like fairness and cooperation.

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      Your examples, and honestly calling it bullshit, operate under your human understanding of right and wrong.

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    If the first statement were true then Adam and Eve did not sin because they literally did not know right from wrong until eating the literal fruit of the knowledge of food and evil.

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      They literally didn’t exist. It’s a story made up by people to scare children.

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        It’s a weird story though because the moral seems to be that even adults don’t do what they’re told. And sometimes your sister is hot.

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          Alternate take if you’re into it: “Sin” only exists in our mind, once we perceive it we create it. Naivety truly is bliss, knowledge is a curse.

          But having knowledge also means you know how to do drugs and neat ways of fucking, so … win some lose some.

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        Yes, but they didn’t understand that not following God’s orders was bad. They weren’t capable of making moral decisions because they hadn’t eaten the fruit yet.

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          If you follow the story, it’s apparent that the end was engineered. And that the real villain was not the snake or adam nor eve but god itself

      • JackbyDev@programming.dev
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        They literally did not know what they were doing was evil because they literally did not know right from wrong.

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    Me, a homo sapiens, belonging to the animal kingdom

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    Right and wrong is one thing, sin is another. Sin is doing stuff that God says not to do, morality doesn’t really come into it. Cats can’t sin because they don’t have theistic religion.

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      Cats are their own gods. Letting them see the bottom of their food bowl is a mortal sin and you will burn in kitty hell for it.

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      Defying an authority figure is not a sin. What if it tells you to do something bad, like slit your sons throat and burn the body? Defining sin as questioning authority is BS.

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        That is precisely what differentiates sin from evil. It’s why we have two words for those two things. Abraham would not have sinned by killing Isaac as ordered. But it would have been an evil act, and stupid and insane