Why would having it be in a vest be useful, so it’s concealed until you’re really close? Like, it’s a fucking nuke, it’s not like you need to get in particularly close for it to have the intended effect.
Like, he’s just mashing the image of a suicide bomber in with the fear of nukes to strike as many “panic! danger! scary!” notes as possible.
A tactical nuke within a nuclear bunker could be useful if you wanted to target people important enough to be in that bunker? Perhaps he had the thought of doing such…
so would any explosive device, or chemical agent, or two smaller assassins in a trench coat. If they do go the nuke vest route, I hope they put a bunch of light graphics on it to be really edge lord and scary with it
Maybe JD wants a nuclear death though.
he wants to be able to visit the local gloryholes whenever he wants and not be judged by which side he is on
Normally I get angry at these pathological liars but this lie is so absurdly stupid that it’s actually funny.
Imagine someone driving their van to a parking lot near the white house and then going “Welp, better strap on my suicide nuke that will obliterate the entire city. I see no other way of doing this.”
I mean, people do strap on conventional explosive vests and set them off in crowds. That is not the absurd part.
I think their point is that the van was a much easier storage vessel, with room and penetration power. Getting out of the van and walking 30 feet has miniscule change on the effects of a munition that’s blast radius and fallout are so large.
The entire idea of a vest/backpack/portable device would be more so you can get behind enemy lines by say parachute or such. Although there is no point of a parachute as you don’t need to cushion your fall, and no need of the person if someone was already letting you leave said flying device.
Ah, I missed that point.
That’s because thats the only way it can work with low power explosives slapped together by some group with limited resources.
Every nuke can be considered a suicide bomb. Ffs get this guy out of any kind of position making decisions.
He should make one and demonstrate how it would work.
If lemmy had an equivilent of retweeting, I would.
The Iran war is worse than the fucking Epstein files you weirdo
I don’t disagree, but let me direct your attention to Exhibit A:
She isn’t wrong, with only one addition; he will take down the entire world as well. Clearly.
I agree, he is a type of person to anchor on to anything that can sustain his own egocentric power. In fact, the time ticks till he decides that releasing another batch of Epstein files would prove advantageous to distract people from the genocide and war crimes he is commiting.
I do hope it’s not a competition.
Oh yeah, the black and white world, where only one thing can be bad.
On a scale of “accusations made of child prostitution” versus the war crime of aggression, painting the latter as a mere distraction from the former is insane.
Did I stutter?
American civilians killed by Iran made nuclear slingshots and slippping on nuclear banana peels.
Won’t be so funny when you fall and split your pants (nuclear-style).
I will fall face first into a nuclear cream pie
Lololol I think this bloke’s being serious
“Vance says” is like when my 3-year-old blames everything on the cat. Who ate all the nesquik Jonathan, was it the cat, or was it you with nesquik on your face? Who can say.
No, see, a raccoon busted in here. He said, he said to me, “that nesquik is mine, Jonathan”, he said, and then he ate it all, didn’t even mix it with the milk, just ate it powdered, then the raccoon smeared some on me and said, “Jonathan, this is now your fault mwahaha” and ran off!
Maybe a dirty bomb with nuclear materials, but an actual fission bomb on a vest? No. Never mind they don’t have the enriched fuel, never mind just building a working device would be extremely difficult for them and that would be large like the Hiroshima bomb.
This is Iraq Weapons of Mass Distraction all over again. Fuck this administration.
The US made, in its dr. strangelove years, 2100 “davey crocket” backpacks that were 51lbs. The suicide vest is an arab insurgent tool, and meant to be much more discrete.
Iran is pretty good at missiles, and 4 weeks ago, and for last 30 years, was supposedly 2 weeks away from a nuke, as well as having a thing against Israel.
A backpack device is BIG. It could not be concealed like a suicide vest. It also requires nuclear materials (plutonium) and a specialty implosion design and triggers Iran does not have.
An Atomic Demolition Munition was nearly the size of a 55-gallon drum and came in two(?) pieces – the weapon itself and the equipment to detonate it – for making it easier to transport.
The SADM is 4 pieces, each weighing 18kg.
Nobody’s walking around with a nuke vest. Why bother? Bomb vests are made so you can walk into a crowded place. With a nuke, just drive it in a truck in the targeted neighborhood.
This is just Vance trying to scare some support into the disaster that Trump started to make us forget about Epstein.
yeah the idea that Iran would use humans as delivery mechanism for nuclear weapons is a form of racist fetishization. it’s maddening, this man. but then. i’m appalachian. i’m the hillbilly that racist carpet-baggging son of a bitch hayseed spoke ill of in his book. and i swear to GOD that man put soap in the cast iron skillet i’m gonna hit him in the face with
Soap is fine as long as you have a complete seasoning.
yeah but you just know he’d put an old cast iron dutch oven straight in the dishwashes and then the cupboard
he whistles in the woods at night and in the house in the day
he painted his backdoor blue
he shoots birds at the window with a bb gun
…whats wrong with a blue backdoor?
appalachian folklore. it invites vile spirits into your home
FWIW, wp:Suitcase nuclear device.
Allegations were made in the 1990s that Israel had developed suitcase nuclear bombs during the 1970s.[28]
Sounds like US should bomb Israel or JD Vance. NYC terrorist plot, and Assassination/intimidation attempt against peace intermediaries in Pakistan… just yesterday. NATO has essentially confirmed that Israel is far more likely to have sent missiles to target/destroy Diego Garcia base than Iran, all to fake scare on Iran’s missile range. That’s just this week.
From genocide, to pager attacks, JFK, 9/11, to lies determining warmongering, Israel is not a friend to even American empire (independent of its bribed administrators) much less Americans. It uses controlling violence against America, and much more dangerous than any other nation… if we just need a war for war’s sake.
The nuclear vest bomb was in a movie I have a feeling have just watched.
It is actually possible, though it would stretch the definition of “vest.” It’s not something that can really fit on a vest, but I suppose you could hide it in a fat suit, a wheelchair, or a fake pregnancy belly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W54
The W54 was a 1 kiloton bomb that weighed a bit over 50 lbs. It was built to be a man-portable demolition charge. It’s certainly possible for something like that to be built in a way that could be concealed on your person.
I love how inconspicuous it is:
Like something from Looney Tunes.
Yeah. I’m imagining a suicide bomber wearing a huge fat suit like Mike Myers wore when played Fat Bastard. Just a giant fake belly with a literal nuclear bomb concealed inside.
Though really, I think the real problem with a “nuclear suicide vest” is simple practicality. Like, what’s the actual point? The whole point of a suicide vest is to be able to smuggle explosives into an area where they’ll do the most damage. A guy holding a bomb in his hands won’t be let into a crowded bus. Someone holding a pipe bomb is going to cause people to run away from them screaming. A suicide vest bomber seeks to sneak into a crowded space densely packed with many people. Suicide bombers need to get close to large numbers of people. They need a bomb that can be concealed on their person. Otherwise they end up doing no more damage than someone could with a handgun.
But a nuke? You don’t need to sneak the nuke into the stadium. You set it off five blocks away. It doesn’t need to be concealed. If you want to deliver a terrorist nuking, you would instead load it on the back of a truck with heavy radiation shielding. You don’t try to sneak it in to a crowded location. You just try to drive it into a dense urban area or near a critical piece of infrastructure and hope to not set off any radiation detectors along the way. A nuclear truck bomb is a reasonable fear. A nuclear suicide vest is laughable.
It could fit into a suitcase, no?
Hey sexy! Is that a rocket in your poc…holy shit! That’s a godamn big whatever it is!
IT’S JUST A BACKPACK.
It’s not something that can really fit on a vest, but I suppose you could hide it in a fat suit, a wheelchair, or a fake pregnancy belly.
Maybe that’s why people keep backing away from Trump. It’s not incontinence, it’s their dosimeter badges.
They cannot build a W54. This would be an early prototype device and that would not fit on a vest. Iran only has enriched uranium, not plutonium (according to news reports). It takes a great deal more uranium than plutonium to build a bomb. About 65ish kilos of +90% enriched for a uranium bomb.
The W54 is a shaped charge implosion device. To build a W54, they’d need plutonium. And the trigger to detonate shaped charges at the right time in the right order. Plus, they need a neutron moderator to limit criticality so it doesn’t detonate with the full potential of the nuclear material. This is all well beyond Iran’s capabilities.
Russia could do it though. Probably China too. North Korea? I think not.
Gun-type nukes are relatively easy to make and can be pretty compact. The hard part is getting the plutonium
I’m not a nuclear weapons designer, I’ve just read some books. But my understanding is that shaped charge implosion is better for Pu designs. It does require much less material to reach criticality. Maybe 8-9kg? vs 65kg for a U device. But I don’t think Iran has been refining Pu, just U.
I heard they’re developing a new Shahed bomb that can blow up a church and rebuild it into a mosque.
Just Dumb fails to acknowledge the fucked up US healthcare system is deadlier to Americans than the stupid shit that developed in the vacuum between his ears.
Sure they could buddy… sure they could.
There is a minimum-amount of fission-fuel required, AND there is a minimum-amount of conventional-explosives required to compress the fission-fuel until it goes supercritical.
That detonator isn’t going to be small-enough to hide in a vest.
Absolute disinformation.
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JD should stick to fucking couches, not nuclear physics.
I really wonder what happened when making that couch. The left one being on piece and then the right one having a seam between the bottom and the “pillow”. Thinking it’s either AI or some home project that didn’t pan out as planned.
I was thinking maybe it’s a sectional missing a section, with the part on the left being a sticky-outy bit for your legs that doesn’t have a back, and the part on the right expecting another piece on the side towards the camera.
Or AI.
I mean, yeah, the Davie Crockett could fit in a back pack, a really big back pack
It is stupid for even more reasons than that. I’ve thought about it back when North Korea had pretend nuclear suicide bombers march on their military parade.
Even if somehow they manage to cram one in a backpack that is carriable by a person, there is no advantage whatsoever given the blast radius. You will have to use a vehicle of sorts to get near the enemy and more importantly away from your friendlies anyway. Whatever distance you can cover on foot afterwards won’t make much of a difference. Might as well make it vehicle borne.
Also the whole point of a suicide vest is to be able to get in the middle of an unaware crowd or near your target before using it. With a nuke you don’t need to be in the middle of a targeted crowd or get that close to your target to have an effect.
He’s talking about a dirty bomb. And, technically, that is quite possible and doable by the Iranians.
It’s a stupid assertion, yes; but the engineering is plausible.
Go rub yerself against bad american people!
Imagine pulling the trigger and you have to endure radiation sickness for days or weeks before you get your virgins, smh.
I mean, the W54 was small enough to be carried by a person and I don’t think anyone wants even a 1kt device going off near them. So it’s within the realm of possibility even if it does strain credulity as an actual goal Iran was working toward (let alone a solid justification for this bullshit).
Edit: the W54 weighed 51lb (23 kg).
That wouldn’t be a suicide vest, though; it’d be a suicide fat suit.
I don’t think anyone wants even a 1kt device going off near them
Pussies.
“watch closely, because I’m only going to show you once”
Do you actually need conventional explosives? I had the impression all they do is reliably stick the big hunks of radioactive material together in a big bomb that needs to be delivered at high speeds and detonate automatically. Wouldn’t it be enough to quickly shove a cylinder into a bigger core, perhaps with a motor or even a tensioned spring?
That of course doesn’t waive the issue of the amount of fissile material, or the fact it needs to be all put together (you can’t spread it around a vest)
It’s not just reliably sticking the two subcritical halves of fissile material together, but keeping them there via inertia long enough for enough of the mass to go critical before the much more minor reactions blow them apart via melting/vaporizing the nearest surfaces.
If you had to halves of an atomic bomb core and just clacked them together mechanically you’d wind up with a lot of heat and a big old pulse of radiation, and if you were the one holding this device you probably would indeed die. But there would be no nuclear explosion in the sense we think of it as compared to actual functional nuclear weapons. At best you’d wind up with an energy release equivalent to a few pounds of TNT, which would be much easier to replicate with… a few pounds of TNT.
This has been explored to death, e.g. via the Demon Core experiments, where a critical mass of fissile material was brought together via manual means and the end result was the release of enough radiation to kill at least two people (albeit certainly not killing them instantly) but no explosion.
This has been explored to death, e.g. via the Demon Core experiments
If I’m not mistaken, in case of the demon core accidents, the reaction was always interrupted by the experimenter frantically separating the two halves, right? Doesn’t mean it would detonate, but using it as an example of why it wouldn’t doesn’t seem to check out if I’m remembering correctly.
The point is that even bringing the parts together until a critical state was reached, the material did not explode. If the Demon Core were left in its critical state like that but otherwise undisturbed, it surely would have melted but would not have gone off like an atom bomb.
To my understanding, you can’t really do more than bring the parts together in a compact arrangement and keep them like that, so if the demon core would stay together (and not, say, get blown apart by the release of energy), then the issue would be a lack of fissile material (or reflectors), no?
See also an image of a nuclear bomb design (I think Little Boy) from Wikipedia, which illustrates the idea of sliding a rod of fissile material into a hollow cylinder, though the bomb did it in reverse. I think the design might be obsolete due to inefficiency, and it might need the tough shell to hold it together (and act as a neutron reflector).
The demonic ritual of human sacrifice
Cats and coyotes?
When will this lying sack of shit starting painting his face orange?
His tongue is already stained orange
That was an image I definitely didn’t need
Well done, it takes a lot to make me gag
A new American tradition: all incoming Presidents must paint their entire body orange
Nah, not their entire body, that would look too natural
