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    Sweet. Now scour every other gun owner’s publications and social media and if you find evidence of drug use ring them up on federal charges because apparently we’re enforcing that shit on its own now. It’s going to be interesting to have to visit all of my rural-ass relatives in a federal penitentiary.

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      Every one of my republican voting friends owns firearms and smokes weed. One of them has a hemp businesses that they’re just waiting to switch over to cannabis as soon as it’s legalized. Guess who’s the most diehard Trump lover of the bunch…

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            I mean if that is how they feel. Might as well be consistent. /me shrugs

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              This is an extremely Republican train of thought, are you sure you’re on the right side of the table here?

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                What does political affiliation have to do with anything here?

                In a global utilitarianism point of view, the best course of action is not to pursue that.

                I’m a kantian point of view, there are no exceptions to rules. If you find an exception, it’s a bad rule and needs to be rewritten.

                I’m taking a kantian ethics point of view. Why does this appear to be Republican to you?

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            So you’re suggesting ruining someone’s life because you’re pissy about political theatrics they are a criminal?

            FTFY.

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            The party of personal responsibilitylaw and order … fuck you, I got mine.

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            I’m not saying to do it. I’m simply pointing out that it’s an option and not an amazing one at that.

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        Every one of my republican voting friends owns firearms and smokes weed. One of them has a hemp businesses that they’re just waiting to switch over to cannabis as soon as it’s legalized. Guess who’s the most diehard Trump lover of the bunch…

        Gro-bro culture.

        Every weed grower voted against legalization when California would have been the first in the nation to legalize in 2012.

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          My pothead roommate was livid when that failed. Went on a big rant about it. At the end, I was like “ohh, when did you vote? I didn’t see you leave all day”, and he was like “well, I didn’t vote… but this is fucking bullshit”

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            My primary concern from the perspective of someone living in a prohibition state is that it is the last cottage industry that someone can start doing when they can’t or won’t get another job. If weed doesn’t serve that function anymore, the alternatives that are left are generally much more dangerous criminal activity, such as selling coke or prostitutes. Psychedelics don’t move fast enough to pay the bills.

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        I think technically alcohol too would fall under this without too much effort

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      It would be super fun if Hunter’s expensive lawyers raise some argument about the constitutionality of gun crimes that eventually makes it to the Supreme Court - put Thomas and Alito in the position of either pissing off gun nuts or pissing off MAGA idiots (and the center of that Venn diagram is quite large).

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        That’s almost certainly what his lawyers are going to do. But I think that it will be the appeals court that pisses off the MAGA idiots, and that the SCOTUS will not take the case.

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      You’re not wrong.

      But it’s also not incorrect that Biden’s son is a piece of shit, and I would really like to see our president spend as much effort trying to get a living wage for the American people as he does trying to keep his offspring out of jail.

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        Lmao… no he isnt… It’s not shity, to like your own penis and take pics of it to send out… enjoy having sex, even with whore (take a lesson from frank Reynolds) and to be into guns, and oh yeah, coke.

        That is literally your everyday republican politician… they just don’t like Hunter, cause his massive dong made them feel confusing feelings they try to repress.

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          Not the person you asked, but from what I can tell based on what I read, he’s a typical nepo baby who trades way too much on his father’s fame. The calls to Biden were things like “hey Dad, how are you?” during a meeting to show that he could get the VP on the phone. Biden didn’t even know he was bragging about his father in a meeting when he took the call. He just thought it was his son calling to say hi.

          So kind of an asshole nepo baby.

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    Well I for one am glad this came out.

    This cleared up any doubts I had in my mind when it came for voting for this guy for president. Yessiree, I absolutely am not gonna vote for Hunter Biden in 2024.

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    The NRA is going to leap to his defense, right?

    Just like how they leapt to the defense of Philando Castile and Breonna Taylor.

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    Is going after gun owners who lied about their drug usage while purchasing their guns really the road Republicans want to go down? That is fine by me! Go get all that drug using gun owners Feds!

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      Honestly, that’s a horrible idea. Far more minorities are convicted on drug charges than their population represents. It’s likely that the document violates people’s 2nd amendment rights (for those who think that it still applies when a well regulated malitia is not required for the protection of our free state). Regardless, it’s a bad precident. I don’t care about Hunter, but this should not be used on anyone else. If I had my choice, he’d use his resources, which he has plenty of, to fight it for the good of all other people, but that would be bad politically.

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        If its a horrible idea, the law should be changed. It shouldn’t be determined by one rich, white guy’s ability to fight it in court. Precident isn’t going to help any minorities or majorities with this type of case.

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          If it’s ruled unconstitutional then it’s unconstitutional. It won’t just be for him. I believe it’s happened once for this form, but it was in a stare court, so the precedent isn’t set at the federal level. I might be wrong though. It might just be strong suspicion that it’s unconstitutional that hasn’t been tested yet.

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    He is charged with lying about using drugs in order to buy a gun. Today I learned it is illegal in the USA to have a gun if you have ever used drugs. Alright police… Go round up all the guns from anyone who has ever used drugs.

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            I’m pretty sure Hunter is just a lever to pull to try to stain Biden.

            To be fair, the outrageous allegations I’ve heard the Republicans make would be insanely problematic and evil if true, but I just haven’t seen any reasonable evidence to think they are. If I saw the evidence I’d want Biden impeached in a heartbeat. Nobody is above the law.

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      Used drugs… ever??

      That sounds quite absurd honestly. So who would be left to even own guns? People who never even touched alcohol once in their life? I feel like that’s almost nobody left in the US.

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        The text of the statute refers to someone who is “an unlawful user of or addicted to a controlled substance,” so alcohol wouldn’t count. You’re asked on the form to attest that you are not either a current user or addict, so I don’t think past use applies either. You just can’t both own a gun and do illegal drugs simultaneously, which I guess they think they can prove Hunter did. It’s one of those stupid laws that can be enacted selectively to add charges and put people in prison for longer.

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      I’ve never been asked if about prior drug use in connection with buying a firearm. Is it normal to ask that? Or is it something that isn’t asked about and happens to be obscurely illegal?

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        Pretty sure it’s the first question on the form you have to fill out. I believe all the answers are no, but it’s been a while.

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        You’ve never done an ATF 4473? It’s required if buying from a dealer. It may vary by state for private sales.

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          Yes, they said iirc it says are you now or have you ever been addicted to xyz.

          Ed: Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance? Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.

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    That’s it, I’m convinced – I definitely won’t vote for him now!

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    now I’m upset that his father gave him a government job and placed him in charge of peace in the middle east…

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    so… all those people who argued that trump getting indicted because is no big deal because an indictment is not a conviction, and it’s all poltical… they feel the same way about this, right?

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    On one hand if he broke the law he broke the law. Charge him.

    On the other hand I’m completely convinced he only got caught because Republicans have been “investigating” unnecessarily for years.

    Which is super ironic considering Republicans are the party of “small govt” yet “big brother” is why Hunter got hit with anything.

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      So he broke the law, but it’s also likely unconstitutional. I don’t care about him, but he has the resources to fight it for the rest of the people who don’t. It’s not like this is every really enforced, but if he wanted to do good he’d fight it. If he wants to do what politically convenient he probably won’t. I have no expectation of him doing good though, nor should anyone. He’s a wealthy private citizen.

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    Who gives a shit. If he broke the law, convict him, as long as it’s consistent with anyone not the son of a famous politician. By the same token, these same rich and powerful people have to be accountable to all of same laws…

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      as long as it’s consistent with anyone not the son of a famous politician

      As the article notes, it is not consistent, and the charges were likely brought due to political pressure.

      Your average addict would have these charges dropped and a diversionary program offered, as was in the initial plea deal (prior to political pressure being leveraged).

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        Well then, I oppose it. But not because I’m part of some cult-of-personality about the man… That would just be pathetic!

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        I thought the people bringing the charges are the ones against all the regulations and background checks on firearms to begin with. So all of a sudden they’re just changing their minds, as a party, on an issue that’s one of the foundations of their entire platform. Yeah, no one is going to see right through that giant pile of hypocritical bullshit.

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    So Republicans are cool with Hunter’s indictment over his gun license application details? I guess that means they hate the Bidens even more than they love guns.

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        It’s quite interesting from a religious perspective. Most of these people pretend to be devout christians with christian principles, but they judge Joe Biden harshly for loving his son and for the fact he has forgiven him his many missteps.

        If they were actually devout christians, they would realise the way Biden treats his son is quite reminiscent of the Parable of the Prodigal Son. It’s been a while, but the whole point of that parable, is that just like a father forgives his wayward son, God forgives his children for our many missteps and sins, and celebrates our return to the fold as the father celebrated the return of his prodigal son.

        I honestly don’t know how you can hate Joe Biden for forgiving and loving his son, then expect God to forgive you for your sins.

        Personally, I’m not religious. The interesting thing is that in practice, despite their loud prostestations and virtue signaling, the conservative right seem to be becoming increasingly secular too. I don’t think many of them actually believe. They certainly don’t seem to believe in Christian values or the bible anymore. They just hang on to the symbols of religion because it is politically expedient and allows them to differentiate their in-group, then often seem to do the exact opposite of what the bible tells them to do.

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          Religious people will twist the bible according to their requirements. Are we surprised here?

          If they followed the bible, women wouldn’t be treated equally as men, which interestingly there are men that think like that, and even more interestingly there are women that allow it

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          I don’t think many of them actually believe.

          its so much worse than that. not only do they believe, but they believe their version of christianity that allows for racism, hate and just about whatever the priest feeds them. for a non-trivial percent of the population, jesus isnt about loving your neighbor anymore.

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      So Republicans are cool with Hunter’s indictment over his gun license application details?

      Dunno about Republicans in general but a lot of Gun Owners are because they’ve wanted question 11e on the 4473 removed for a LONG time and Hunter’s situation was a way to force the Federal Goverment / ATF to address the issue.

      To be clear Hunter shouldn’t be in trouble for this BUT neither should anyone else and it was always bullshit they’d dismiss his charge but toss other people in prison over it.

      Patrick Daniels got four years and the 5th Circuit only over turned that conviction in August of 2023 which was after the details of Hunters deal were released.

      How’d you like to be the guy sitting in prison watching CNN tell you about the President’s Son getting a pass on the same thing that put you inside?

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    The Republicans of the House of Representatives announced an Impeachment Inquiry into Hunter Bidens penis today.