Yale report says the sanctions are actually working

reading through that one, and I don’t doubt the Modern Russian government could be covering it up

Ukraine burning troops, neo-nazis

this is fairly well known to be true by those who aren’t stupid. At this point it is just being stupid. I would be stunned if you actually learned about this crisis before this whole thing popped off, because I did, and everyone agreed, even the western media, that there were fucking nazis in ukraine, most of it actually. But now since they needed people to put through a meatgrinder so they can offset a rival imperialist power, they have to pretend everyone is a LGBTQ supporting little angel. Its laughable how stupid you are being.

In the meanwhile reports say Russia is burning troops in huge amounts

1. I do not trust those usual reports and neither should you, especially from corporate media. 2. Russia really can afford burning through troops if they were, so it doesn’t even matter.

The only wet dream is you rationalizing that this:

medium country, with half decent post soviet military, mostly in a militia mode of deployment before the invasion. Who can only use post-soviet military tech for any of their war methodology (which is why the NATO aid is useless)

Is currently beating this:

1 medium country with a decent and maintained post soviet military, and the other is the largest and most resource filled country on the planet with large post soviet military industry networks. The army planning for this defensive move for years, and the only massive military on earth besides India and China who operate on a mass battle plan, and not the sort of scattered guerrilla fighting the western countries developed their military to combat. They currently have the lower ukraine up to nearly moldova. THEIR MAIN ARMY ISN’T EVEN ENGAGED, THEY JUST ARMED THE MILITIAS AND LEFT TO REARM FOR ANOTHER OFFENSIVE! Spirit does not win a fight, this isn’t a movie.

I have very little stake in this matter, and I am stunned at how deluded some people are. I believe the Soviet Union’s collapse was a disaster and this is just further proof of it. Do not give yourself… “wet dreams” as you put it, that you are fighting some putinite radical and doing your duty for “democracy” or “ukraine” or somes shit.

You’ve done totally and absolutely nothing

Stalin is the reason we don’t live under a flag with a swastika under it today. Perhaps you would not even be alive typing this if it weren’t for Stalin. The war industry of the USSR in this time is well understood. The USSR was not ready for a war with Germany, but they could be in a few years time. This is evidenced by the fact that the Nazis made it all the way to Moscow, Leningrad, and Stalingrad, before the growing war industry of the Soviet Union was able to catch up and supercede the Nazis’.

Without the M-R pact, Barbarossa would have begun much more to the east. Perhaps that would have given the Nazis the upper hand enough to have defeated the USSR. With hindsight, the M-R pact was strategically the right decision.

So do we call this Nazi collaboration? That would be narrow-sighted, because they took the correct strategy to beat the Nazis. In Finland’s case, they never had the goal of defeating the Nazis. Even after signing a peace with the USSR, they never turned on the Nazis like other eastern european countries did.

No, Finland’s goals were to take territory, and not just the territory they had lost, they wanted to annex all of Karelia we know. A Finish historian even, Lauri Hannikainen writes:

Finnish forces did not stop at the old border but occupied Eastern (Soviet) Karelia with a desire eventually to annex it. By that measure, Finland joined as Germany’s ally in its war of aggression against the Soviet Union in violation of international law. In their strong reliance on Germany, the Finnish leaders made some very questionable decisions without listening to warnings from Western States about possible negative consequences.

So the viewpoint you are espousing in this thread is historical revisionism even by western academic standards.

Of Nazi Germany, sure. Not of Finland.

What a pointless distinction. It’s not like they contributed to Operation Barbarossa or anything and that a number of those 25 million deaths came at the hands of Finish troops.

You say that like they were okay with it.

No, I say that like it is an objective fact.

Soviet Union invaded first

Finland took soviet territory, Soviets wanted the unjustly occupied territory back. I say its fair. They didn’t invade all of finland.

You say that like they were okay with it. From what I hear, it’s a source of considerable bitterness, especially given that all the Finnish people in the area were forced out.

good for them, its war, they lost. Finland shouldn’t have gone for a greedy land grab.

what’s the number of insults and removed comments before a user gets banned?

deleted by creator