Hello,

we will be performing the long awaited update to Lemmy 0.19.9 tomorrow.

We are planning for around 1 hour of downtime between 16:00-17:00 UTC on 16th of March.

You can convert this to your local time here: https://inmytime.zone/?iso=2025-03-16T16%3A00%3A00.000Z

You can find an overview of the changes in our previous announcement here and in the Lemmy release notes:

Update 16:50 UTC:

The upgrade was successfully completed at around 16:27 UTC, but we’re still fighting with some performance issues after the upgrade. Our database and the outbound federation container are currently using significantly higher CPU than expected, which is still being investigated to identify the root cause.

        • cm0002@lemmy.world
          6·
          1 day ago

          Do you think you guys could do a post on the underlying hardware/infrastructure of .world? I would love to see what it takes to run the largest Lemmy instance lmao

          • MrKaplan@lemmy.worldEnglish
            11·
            1 day ago

            in short form, we have HAproxy running on a hetzner cloud VM for Lemmy/Lemmy-UI, another HAproxy VM for the alt UIs, a VM for the alt UIs.

            for the main LW box, which runs lemmy containers, lemmy-ui, pictrs and a database each for lemmy and pictrs, we have a physical box with an EPYC 7502P 32 core CPU, 128GB memory and NVMe SSDs.

            • cm0002@lemmy.world
              1·
              1 day ago

              Huh interesting thanks! I’m pleasantly surprised at how little the “cloud” is part of it.

              Thought for sure it would be some flavor of cloud with a whole bunch of VMs or something like Kubernetes for scalability lol

      • angrystego@lemmy.world
        7·
        1 day ago

        That’s cool, but it doesn’t seem to work for me. I have all on in my settings:

        But the numbers don’t show:

        • Syrc@lemmy.world
          8·
          1 day ago

          Apparently they’re next to the timestamp now (you can see the “↑ 4” on your screenshot, and if you sort this post’s comments by Best, the Futurama meme shows as “↑ 87 ↓ 1”)

            • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
              1·
              1 day ago

              Don’t feel bad. I had that exact same back and forth with myself.

              I was also half asleep, high, and pooping, and I still figured it out on my own…so maybe feel a LITTLE bit bad.

              • angrystego@lemmy.world
                4·
                1 day ago

                Congratulations.

                I find the new spot for the numbers a bit wierd, because they end up in different places according to the lenght of the username and other info like instance name.

      • Dicska@lemmy.world
        3·
        1 day ago

        I might be a bit confused, but I just went to my settings to see, and both “show upvotes” and “show downvotes” were ticked already, by default. I refreshed the page (Ctr+Shift+R), and it’s still the same.

        • Syrc@lemmy.world
          2·
          1 day ago

          (Copying from my other comment)

          Apparently they’re next to the timestamp now (you can see the “↑ 4” on that screenshot, and if you sort this post’s comments by Best, the Futurama meme shows as “↑ 87 ↓ 1”)

          • Dicska@lemmy.world
            4·
            1 day ago

            Aaaah, I get it now, thanks! I did see the “↑ 4” bits everywhere, but it turns out that every single comment I have looked at had 0 downvotes, and then instead of going ”↓ 0”, it just simply doesn’t display downvotes. I thought I was going mad.

            I liked the previous implementation, though. To me it seemed more clear.

  • Dremor@lemmy.world
    17·
    2 days ago

    URL Blocking, at last. Now I can block all those AI shit websites on my communities :D

    And being able to comment on locked post, what a nice QoL enhancement :D

    • woelkchen@lemmy.world
      2·
      1 day ago

      URL Blocking, at last. Now I can block all those AI shit websites on my communities :D

      Huh? How? I don’t see anything about this in the six linked changelogs.

        • woelkchen@lemmy.world
          1·
          1 day ago

          In 0.19.4, section “Moderation enhancements”

          But this is about admins being able to block URLs, not about mods of communities.

          • OpenStars@piefed.socialEnglish
            1·
            1 day ago

            PieFed and Mbin both allow you to block URLs, like of a particular news source that you don’t want. At a guess, the Sync and Connect Lemmy apps may do likewise (but I don’t truly know). If Lemmy does not do it in the base web UI, you may have to hunt around to get the functionality that you want. I just wanted to let you know that it definitely does exist, maybe not in base Lemmy, but in multiple other ways, in case that helps.

  • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
    6·
    1 day ago

    Finally, the ability to view (and delete!) your own uploads.

    FYI, the sorting on the uploads tab is broken. Obviously I don’t expect sorting by “top” or “controversial” or whatever to work, but sorting by “old” doesn’t, either. It’s always sorted by newest first. But at least it’s something. (I know for sure I have images uploaded that were not used in posts.)

  • fuck_you_spez@lemmy.world
    13·
    2 days ago

    Someone ELI5 why Lemmy is or isn’t ready for a Reddit Exodus.

    Personally, I want it to be. Reddit censorship/shadowbans/deletes is outta control. Imo the problem lemmy has is on Desktop, since on Android there are some great apps like Boost that give it a Reddit-like end user experience, wheras Desktop experience in a browser is No equivalent of RES, or classic reddit. Opening images is very janky. I like RESs 'view images buttons, that untwirls all view image buttons. Using lemmy on desktop is a Chore. I can handle it. But I imagine its very much a bad taste and an impediment to a greater influx of average users.

    Its about time we left reddit behind and make Desktop lemmy more welcoming. The times we’re in requires a trustable platform. Reddit ain’t it.

    • OpenStars@piefed.socialEnglish
      21·
      1 day ago

      Try this out and see: go to PieFed.social and make an account. See the sign-up wizard, which asks you what you interests are and subscribes you to communities based on that, and asks how much content you want to see with the keywords “Trump” or “Musk” - none, a little, or all/no filtering - and check out the user customizable and shareable Feeds that were recently added (the equivalent of multi-Reddits, a highly requested feature).

      The Fediverse is growing up. Lemmy… well, has the advantage of the legacy work put into it so far - e.g. all the apps that currently work for it (though with some, like Sync, falling behind).

      PieFed is even opening up new avenues in the democratization of moderation, allowing the user to control what they want. Lemmy, meanwhile, is somehow becoming more like Reddit over time rather than less - e.g. while it has the modlog, it lacks a modmail, and any notification of a moderation action (removal, locking, banning, etc.) and while it used to report the name of a mod who removed content (iirc you might be used to that on LW, being on 0.19.3, until just now?), now it just says “mod”. So there is no way to appeal or ask about or even be notified that your content has been moderated. Even Reddit was more friendly than that!?!?!?

      The promise of the Fediverse is that we can keep hopping to new places, not that any one place will be any good, but the tools man, the tools… they are pretty authoritarian in nature, when you stop to think about it, they REALLY are. imho at least.

      And Reddit has the content. And no tankies (but does have conservatives). Overall, the vast majority of people (centrists mainly, and who don’t use Arch Linux btw) prefer simply to remain on Reddit, seeing no real reason to move.

        • OpenStars@piefed.socialEnglish
          1·
          11 hours ago

          I don’t have a comprehensive listing, but one example I can think of offhand is that the search function works much better on Lemmy (and is about to improve further by restricting to the title field). The PieFed search feature that exists now (like Reddit’s) is pretty bad, where you can paste an exact title but somehow get no matches.

          An extremely minor one is that there is no preview of comments before submitting, although a preview was recently added for posts so one for comments surely is not far behind.

          A more major one is that PieFed does not work quite as well for navigating “deeper” posts - you can only toggle between the one comment you are at in the moment, with its immediate parent, and “all comments” in a post, which for deeper posts also loses the entire chain bc it gets hidden below a “Continue thread” link, so even searching for exact text won’t find it and instead you have to go through every single one of those one by one until you manage to stumble upon it. Lemmy is starting to do the latter as well, in a manner similar to how Reddit started to leave behind old-Reddit and transition to new-Reddit - which I do NOT like! - but at least when you somehow get a link to a comment (e.g. in a notification from when someone replies to you; or if someone sends it to you), then you can step up the chain one comment at a time, which makes working with those a lot easier.

          Edit: and needing to edit this post to correct an autocorrect reminds me that editing comments on PieFed is very frustrating - it takes you to a separate page, then when you are done returns to the OP (not even going directly to your comment for some reason?), which completely obliterates your progress, e.g. if you had comments sorted and some hidden as you read through them all, then it’s very frustrating that all of your effort in those regards get discarded.

          Then again, there is now a fork of Thunder that is being tested on PieFed, so many/most of the above could be addressed that way? And it’s not like Lemmy does not have frustrations of its own as well, in different areas.

          I haven’t tested moderation tools on PieFed yet.

          Mainly, PieFed is both ahead of Lemmy in terms of features overall, especially for a new joiner with the sign-up wizard and the preloading of all communities across the entire Fediverse, while also being less polished than Lemmy in some other respects. But it’s closing the gap REALLY fast!:-)

    • Bappity@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      2 days ago

      in my opinion it’s the login experience. selecting an instance is too confusing for the average user.

    • dryfter@lemm.eeEnglish
      2·
      1 day ago

      For me to rely on Lemmy for news, there needs to be a LOT more action. Right now Reddit can be my sole news source because of how many people are on there.

      The problem can be seen when looking at Twitter/X and the exodus that has been happening there. Mastodon was touted as a Twitter alternative but the onboarding was so confusing due to being federated. People don’t want to be confused they want things simple. This is why BlueSky took off rather than Mastodon.

      Anyone remember Diaspora?*

      Decentralization is not a new idea, it’s just too confusing to the masses right now. While the Lemmy onboarding process is actually pretty good, picking an instance is a trip up (it was for me for a very long time and I’m tech-savvy). Until that part is solved centralized services will always have more migrating users sadly.

  • 9point6@lemmy.world
    361·
    2 days ago

    This is the update that’ll break sync, right?

    Sad times, but I guess I’m gonna be deciding between boost and infinity tomorrow

    • Shadow@lemmy.ca
      42·
      2 days ago

      No it won’t. That’s the next major release, this is just LW catching up.

      • MrKaplan@lemmy.worldEnglish
        30·
        2 days ago

        partial breakage, the stuff that people on other instances have already been experiencing for a while.

        iirc there are still some additional issues with sync arising with the update, but it won’t be entirely broken.

        • Shadow@lemmy.ca
          10·
          2 days ago

          I’m a sync user and haven’t had any issues, what breakage are you referring to?

            • jballs@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              3·
              1 day ago

              Biggest problem for me is that posts no longer show as read. Makes it almost completely unusable. I switched to Voyager and canceled my premium Sync subscription.

            • Victor@lemmy.world
              3·
              2 days ago

              Well damn. The comments for me are not so rarely even more important/interesting than the post itself…

        • kratoz29@lemm.eeEnglish
          5·
          2 days ago

          For me Sync has been broken since long ago (proud Summit user now), my instance has always been updated faster than .world though, so I can’t really pinpoint since which version I started having issues with it.

    • spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      172·
      2 days ago

      I used sync for reddit for years, but I kinda hope sync dies. But I also have an axe to grind with the dev after they invalidated the app purchases and made people buy it again to not have ads. Plus their inability to update on a regular basis is kinda terrible, and has continued. One of the top posts on the sync community when I checked was to not report PMs because it will actually report a random comment with the same ID, which is just a massive fuck up given the amount of spam PMs.

      • KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        13 hours ago

        Honestly I was fine with the rebuy at first since it was a significant recode AND because they promised to stay on top of development a lot better than they had in the past. Obviously that was a lie and that’s why I’m frustrated with them.

      • go $fsck yourself@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7·
        2 days ago

        they invalidated the app purchases and made people buy it again to not have ads.

        Exactly. Not even a discount. I think it was even more expensive than the reddit version.

        I just checked. It’s $20 to remove ads. Wow.
        I also checked to see how much it cost for the reddit version. I paid $4 to remove ads and $5 for the “pro” version. That’s more than I’ve paid for any app. Now they want another $20 to remove ads on an app they neglect and ignore their customers? Disgusting.

        Plus their inability to update on a regular basis is kinda terrible, and has continued.

        Not just continued, but has gotten worse. Additionally, it’s even more important to update more frequently because of the more frequent changes. It was also never fully functional for Lemmy. For example, spoilers have never worked.

        To add to all that, they don’t even have the decency to pop in for a quick comment or two just to help people feel better.

        • ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world
          23·
          2 days ago

          Wow that’s a lot of salt for someone trying to value their work higher. Maybe just use a different app? Ironically I was a pro user on Reddit and have never been forced to upgrade on Lemmy as it has never shown me a single ad despite the fact that I would in heartbeat ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ , I have never had issues with any Sync app and I’ve been a user since…I dunno 2013?

          I do agree that JDLawson has become more reclusive but he was never all that interactive with the community to be honest. I don’t see that updates or stability of the app has really been an issue. Any time I have had problems they have always been native to Lemmy.

      • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        2 days ago

        But I also have an axe to grind with the dev after they invalidated the app purchases and made people buy it again to not have ads.

        Is that even legal?

    • Kbobabob@lemmy.world
      121·
      2 days ago

      Former Sync user of around 5 years. Recently switched to summit and it was a pretty easy transition. I’ve made plenty of rants about how the Dev just abandons paying customers and I finally had enough once I knew that it actually messes things up if you try to report some things.

      • Coelacanth@feddit.nu
        7·
        2 days ago

        I can’t make any other app look and feel as nice as Sync, honestly. I was trying out Thunder just now, and maybe I could get used to it but the user avatars don’t work for some reason. I don’t disagree about ljdawson though and I wish it was different.

        • KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          13 hours ago

          If you haven’t tried Summit, give it a go, the default look is NOT Sync like but it has a lot of customization options and I feel like I’ve gotten my setup looking pretty close.

          • Coelacanth@feddit.nu
            1·
            13 hours ago

            I’ve tried but like all other apps it’s not perfect. I don’t know why you can’t tweak the spacer in your post view. List With Cards gets kinda close but the spacer is too big (and the cards could be a little more compact). With Compact view the spacer is too thin.

            I also hate the way it handles user avatars/profile pictures. Why are Sync and Boost the only apps that do it properly? Hide it altogether if no custom picture is selected, otherwise display it. All the “default Lemmy” user avatars make the comment section too busy in Summit, but I want to see custom ones since it helps me identify people I recognise.

            Summit also doesn’t do a different font colour for pinned threads.

        • paranoid@lemmy.world
          1·
          2 days ago

          I’m trying out Thunder and like it for the most part, but I can’t seem to get messages to work

      • woelkchen@lemmy.world
        31·
        2 days ago

        Try Summit, it’s slick!

        Yeah, yet another proprietary app is really the place to go.

        Thunder works great, it FOSS, and under active development.

      • spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        41·
        2 days ago

        You don’t need to understand the underlying OS best practices because the app dev is given full access to the device

        You also don’t need to understand the underlying OS to make false claims about how it works.

          • spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            51·
            2 days ago

            If I intended to insult you, I would have. But when you make an outrageous claim without evidence, it can be dismissed without evidence, and I’m not in any shape to explain why your assertion that an app gets full access to your system on install is laughable. I’m also not in any shape to deal with thin skinned posters who see insults in everything, so good day.

  • Tiff@reddthat.com
    6·
    2 days ago

    I can’t wait! We’ll finally get to do a real world test for the parallel sending features!! And if all goes well I’ll get to save 5 Euro a month!

    Thanks LW

  • Korne127@lemmy.world
    1·
    1 day ago

    I directly noticed that the background color got brighter and looked in this community to see whether a post like this got published. I mean, congrats on the new update I guess but I liked the darker dark mode more 😔

    • OpenStars@piefed.socialEnglish
      1·
      1 day ago

      I recall thinking that as well, but fwiw you do get used to it and it’s extremely minor.

      The fact that up and downvote counts sometimes appear on the left and otherwise on the right you never get used to though - I hate it.

    • dohpaz42@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      2 days ago

      What are you going to do with yourself with not being able to entertain us with your memes?

      • cm0002@lemmy.world
        9·
        2 days ago

        Well in my reddit days, I would open the app, see it was still down and angrily close it again

        But with the far superior decentralized Lemmy-verse I just have to switch to an alt on a different instance lol

        So now the game plan will be open app, waste a minute waiting for the timeout on my .world account and remember why and then switch to my .cafe account LMAO

  • Astigma@lemmy.worldEnglish
    21·
    2 days ago

    Good luck admins! And thanks for doing it during the Carabao cup final so I have something else to occupy my time while lemmy.world is down :)