But on the other hand if she would simply wait for them to dissolve… it would add such tremendous flavor! 🤤

That’s what he said too… in a loud voice.

This (PieFed) screenshot is peak Lemmy.

So I nominated it to !bestoflemmy@lemmy.world. Now waiting for it to get removed in 3…2… 🫠

It does not include an instance name with an @ symbol after the community name - a fact I only bothered to notice after searching for the post and trying to go to the community to see if I could find it:-).

It’s not fully ready yet, for someone who does not have an early adopter mindset, but it’s coming, and I’m able to use it as my daily driver already (with frequent fall-backs to Lemmy when I need something that PieFed hasn’t implemented yet).

I just heard that Andrew got a fork of Thunder working for PieFed. So… that will be helpful to see coming to the main branch at some point:-). ⚡

You had me at coffee…

Edit: also, I dunno why, but I feel like this somehow relates too, or at least is funny:-).

We need to allow emoji reactions so I can respond with 🤢🤮. Or is there one yet for bOtH sIdEs SaMe?🤡😈

🫠🙃

I thought this as well… if “front” here means “Alt” then absolutely.

It’s tribalism yo.

Not entirely true - coming from a LW account, it did not make it to Beehaw (although this post did, coming from slrpnk.net and going to lemmy.dbzer0.com).

Yeah that’s a good counterpoint to consider. I think one of the issues is that the only way to implement such is a “ban”, which is kind of a scary word. If it were called a “time-out”, to “cool off”, it could be taken differently, while to call it a “ban” seems so much more serious.

Perhaps a message delivered to them directly, e.g. as a reply, could allow them to see that first rather than just stumble upon the modlog entry later. But I’m not certain how those work: can the recipient still access the community in read-only mode to see that, and is the button to reply greyed out or could they type a long reply but then not be able to deliver it, thereby generating frustration?

And ultimately it’s a juggling act: how to handle the needs of individual new (or old) contributors who want to be free to speak, while also showing consideration for those who may not enjoy what the community becomes whenever the former crowd are allowed free reign to do so.

In Reddit we had similar issues of a community trying to be all things to all people. Post flairs helped a bit, like people could literally filter out those that they did not want (e.g., “yet another Lemmy.ml site-wide ban”). Perhaps you could go the route of offering a megathread, allowing people to post such as comments rather than making full posts? Though it was always an eternal struggle to get people to pay attention to such - like just about every single new post to r/Android was always “which phone should I buy”, even despite the two other posts within the last hour asking the identical question (perhaps mods removed those, in which case the problem was even more intense as those were simply the ones that made it through the cracks).

But whatever you do, please make it clear in the sidebar what the desires are for the community so that people are aware prior to posting. Like right now it reads to me as being receptive to all instances of potential power tripping mods, similar to AITAH.

You have a keen mind. I trust you to find a vision for the community that you are comfortable with, that will be compatible with what can be implemented in Lemmy:-).

That is intentional - the modlog used to say who, but then it changed and now it just says “mod”.

Though the lack of federation of reports is planned to be fixed, somewhere in like 0.19.20 iirc (the current version is 0.19.18).

This is precisely the issue. I mean it’s probably not great that they choose to be tankies in the first place, but that’s on them to decide how to live, and in the meantime at least let the rest of us know what’s up?

However, like the Alt-Right people who showed up to the USA capital on January 6th to “defend the constitution” (despite admitting to never having read it), there are certain segments of society whose walk does not match the talk, i.e. they replace facts with “alternative facts”.

So rather than you having to find a way to block them, they have already blocked you. Which puts you ahead!

OP has a 3 month account, so if this event occurred 2 months ago then they would not have known.

You could put a note into the sidebar asking not to post certain topics that are already extremely well known?

Both sides would genocide the other in a heartbeat if given half a chance - it’s just that one side currently has the means to and is actively doing so.

That said, lemmy.ml is well known for its authoritarian and entirely non-transparent moderation style, which is not communicated to new users well in the slightest and generally they find out after having been banned. Well, now you know.

Read more at https://feddit.nl/post/16246531, and there’s an entire community at !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works dedicated to exactly this topic:-)

The problem is that right or wrong, the admins of Lemmy.ml are the developers of the Lemmy codebase, so the issue is not so much that Alt-Left tankies have taken over a centrist forum space so much as the latter has decided to move in encroaching upon the space literally designed for the former. And there are very few to no open source alternatives, though PieFed is making great strides and Sublinks was at one time too (and hopefully will again).

Well now you can look forward to also trying the 2005 movie as well!:-)

Moderator reports are currently not federated with remote Lemmy instances - so with your account being on Lemm.ee and the !news_summary@lemmy.dbzer0.com being on a different instance, whatever reports are being made you are not able to see them. This is only one of the many ways in which moderator tools for Lemmy suck ass atm. Another way is how that list of reports cannot be sorted or filtered in any way, besides resolved yet or not.

Maybe, but it does serve as a warning to knock it off, so if that happens then a stronger response is warranted next time.

Tbf, if something were removed for “misinformation”, like Russia has invaded Ukraine “for its own good” or whether cats can be vegan, then evaluating whether the mod is acting appropriately or is a PTB depends on those facts?

Though that should not be the focus - as you say the point here is the moderation.

I don’t see any way to read mod reports at all in Voyager, nor could a client overcome the backend limitation in cases where reports are not even federated between instances to begin with, but yeah, it could be done? Though still, not every mod would want to use the same app, and like it would have to work for both Android and iOS.

Perhaps one of the available apps may already do so even?