• pingveno@lemmy.ml
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    Whenever I see a poll about Russian public opinion, I think about people like this teacher. How can people have truly formed their own opinions when public debate gets your life ruined, or worse?

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      yes!

      whenever ppl try to point out that hey, maybe a state-funded agency directly asking people potentially incriminating questions with serious prison time in the streets (not even accounting for the respondent biases of polling methods themselves), isn’t the most reliable metric to measure something, you get called a paid troll or something

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        You could say that for any number of things. LGBTQ people are treated as lesser everywhere, but there’s a pretty material difference between the US or Europe (provides legal protections) and Saudi Arabia (provides death). Just because they are on the same spectrum doesn’t mean they’re comparable.

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        Ah yes, the simple school teacher who told his students about US war crimes

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          You know that I did not mean it like that. But you certainly chose to act like that. Do you have any worthwhile answer or insight for this topic?

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            Of course I believe Assange didn’t do anything wrong, and so his persecution is a terrible thing. The problem is the persecution of the Russian state against its own citizens as at a scope/level far greater than in the United States. The same is true for China and other despotic regimes in the world. USA isn’t wonderful by any means, it’s simply better than those, which is not hard to accomplish because that’s setting the bar as low as possible.

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              We have to disagree on the “better” part. What the US did in the last 100 years, and continues to do, is nothing but the most extreme shit you can imagine. Over and over again, lies were used to start wars, and it’s not even a conspiracy theory, it’s in the fucking open. People just don’t care, because it’s so prevalent that people feel like they can’t do anything.

              Every evil has to be stopped. No matter if it is Russian or American.

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              Imagine saying that with a straight face when US holds 20% of world’s population in prison and uses it as literal slave labor. That’s like the definition of a despotic regime.

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