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    Are people actually getting their undies in a bunch over a 3 year age gap? I find that hard to believe.

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      There are a lot of crazies out there. Some twitch or YouTube streamer I forgot the name of was accused of pedophilia for dating a minor a few years ago. His girlfriend was 17. He was 18 at the time.

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        IIRC a few years ago they tried to charge an 18 year old with possession of CP for having nudes of his 17 year old girlfriend at the time. Apparently her parents found out about their relationship and didn’t approve. Which seems like something that could have been handled with a sit-down talk rather than arresting him and potentially putting him on a list for life, but what do I know.

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          Yeah, most states have clauses in their laws for small age differences in relationships when one partner is below the age of consent, but the photographs make it more tricky because that’ll be sexual photographs of a minor forever.

          Risky reporting it to the police though, since there have actually been cases of charging the underage girl with distribution, which is weird.

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              Do the parents pay for the phone plan? Accomplices to distribution of child pornography.

              Fucking hell, imagine being the parents of a 17 year old kid that is sending nudes to their age-appropriate SO and having the balls to blame the SO. You’re literally responsible for that kid’s education, you dumb fucks. You’re lucky you’re not in jail yourselves.

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            If I remember correctly, there was at least one case where a woman was accused for production of child pornography for her own photos found during phone repair. Can’t find the link though

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          Ya. The law is dumb as shit. I remember a story of a high school boy, i think 16yo, was tried for CP for having photos of himself on his phone.

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        Callmecarson. He was dating her before he turned 18 and there was only a couple months gap iirc.

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      3 year age gap is nothing. I don’t understand people’s need to be disgusted by or police consenting adults.

      There’s 15 years between me and my partner. Both 30+ so both very much consenting adults. But Christ, you still get people chirping with the ‘power differential’ bullshit. Like seriously, you’d think I was 13 the way people go at the age gap. Then again, that was when I actually used Reddit so.

      People are always gonna be outraged by something stupid.

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        People who spend too much time on the internet, are often young, don’t have that much experience of the real world, but do have a disproportionate voice online. That’s why you’ll read plenty of dumb shit on the internet when it comes to relationships.

        Luckily most of them outgrow this nonsense by actually living life. They join the work force, they make friends, they fuck, they fall in love. Unfortunately rather than living life and growing, some people become terminally online. They spend all day on the internet talking about life rather than living it. Afraid of getting hurt, or because they were hurt and decided never again, they are destined to wake up one day and realise they’ve wasted what could have been the best years of the life.

        It’s sad, but it is what it is.

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          I dated a work colleague and people wouldn’t shut up about that either. I honestly think they spent more time thinking about it than we did. It wasn’t like she was my boss or anything so I wasn’t quite sure why it made any difference.

          They kept saying it would be awkward if we break up, but then there were people in the company I already hated and I didn’t need to sleep with them to come to that conclusion.

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        Uh, if you were 13 and your partner 28, yep, that would be a “problem.”

        I put it in quotes because I guess it depends on the region’s age of consent.

        But my point is that an age gap can be significant depending on how old both parties are at the time.

        Having said that, there was an 11 year old gap between me and my partner, but she was already in her mid-30s, so, no biggie.

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        That anyone would have an issue with a 23yo going out with a 20yo is so bonkers to me. And you? 2 consenting adults don’t need to justify their relationship or intimacy to anyone.

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          If anyone was complaining to me about that age gap, i’d ignore anything they talked about forever.

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          Nope my bother wife 9 years younger then him. And my dad was once married to a woman 20 years older then him.

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            There was 25 years difference between my grandparents and no one ever thought that was a problem. It’s this new phenomenon that seems to have come about that people seem to think it’s an issue.

            If you’re 20 and dating a 10-year-old, that’s a problem (hopefully we all agree on that). But if you’re 30 and dating the 20-year-old, that’s fine. The age difference isn’t important. The age of the individuals is what matters.

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                  Yeah I looked it up and it stems from the French of all people, who you would have thought would have been perfectly fine with young love, but there we go. Maybe It comes from the puritan movement?

                  Attributed to French author Max O’Rell in his 1901 “romantic guidebook” with the wildly unsexy title, Her Royal Highness Woman and His Majesty Cupid, the mathematical formula was O’Rell’s unofficial law re: romantic age gaps. According to his calculations, a bride’s ideal age was half the groom’s age plus seven years.

                  So I think we can retire that one. Also notice the use of the word ideal age. It wasn’t a mathematical formula for calculating the youngest that it’s acceptable to date. It’s a mathematical formula to calculate the ideal age to date, presumably there is a lower lower bound.

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                  Nerds who though a random simple formula is what makes something okay or gross

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                I know that’s supposed to be a thing, but it doesn’t make sense since, what is actually morally wrong with the 35-year-old dating a 20-year-old?

                Everyone’s an adult in that scenario, no one’s taken advantage of anyone else.

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                  My father was 36 and my mom was 23 when they got married. Other than him being somewhat abusive it was an okay marriage.

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      The time is not the issue. It’s more that the two people are in different phases of life and maturity. Though 20 junior in university and 23 right out of college isn’t really much of a difference. 20yo vs a 17yo junior in HS would be a much bigger difference

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        A 23-year-old just out of college acts exactly the same way as a 20-year-old in college. There’s literally no difference.

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        I get the difference in experience and where you are in life is a factor, but the issue is people presume the existence of that factor outweighs all others, and that it can only result in a negative.

        Can you give me an example of actual harm being done to the younger person in a gap between high school and college? Harm that applies near universally, to every young person, if they ever enter a relationship with someone that is only a single major life experience ahead of them?

        Harm can be done, obviously, but it’s about the circumstances of that specific relationship. There’s no reason to presume it as a rule in a case like this.

        It also makes an unfair presumption on both parties: that the older person is irresponsible and manipulative, and the younger person is immature and vulnerable.

        It really is kind of odd how much we talk about this topic without appreciating that at a certain point we are almost infantilizing young adults. We agree they’re old enough to vote, own a gun, smoke, and drink, but we can’t give them the the courtesy of respecting their decisions on who they want to sleep with? They’re not actual children.

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          Uh huh. I’m not going to search for abuse cases. But you can tell it’s very much frowned upon in society just by looking at popular media.

          For a recent example: the new Scott Pilgrim show. He’s universally looked down upon for dating a 17yo.

          It really is kind of odd how much we talk about this topic without appreciating that at a certain point we are almost infantilizing young adults.

          HS students are children.

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      Half your age plus seven is the “general rule” I’ve always heard, but there are always exceptions. Even with that 23 and 20 is fine.

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        I’ve known some people who had a ‘+5 on weekends’ amendment to that rule.

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          That’s more of a preference. The “your age divided by 2 plus 7” rule is more about social acceptability of the relationship. But hook-ups are just sex, and generally not subjected to scrutiny, and that doesn’t have to be acceptable to anyone but you and your partner.

          Most people generally like to keep their partners in their age range, but it’s very flexible depending on the prospective partner. And there are quite a few young people out there that do genuinely like more mature sexual partners even if they’d never actually date them.

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        That calculation was a joke that justified old men dating women barely half their age. It wasn’t meant to be an actual guideline

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      I saw a 27 year old on Reddit bragging about how they’d never date a 25 year old because they were too young 🙄

      Social media really attracts some lunatics.

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      When I met my wife I was 27… she was 19. And I got some good-natured (I think) hassle about dating a teenager.

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          I met her at work, and assumed she was in her mid 20’s. We had been dating for a few weeks when she told me that her birthday was in a few days. I asked her how old she would be and she said “20”. Oops.

          She’s 36 now. But she still looks like she is in her 20’s.

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      Yes they are. It’s crazy.

      Also there is a weird. Women are powerful and can look after themselves we have equality now. Then the next sentence omg that man is awful he is taking advantage of that poor helpless women who isn’t capable of making her own life choices.

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    I also don’t use Twitter, Instagram or TikTok because they’re terrible.

    I also don’t quite understand why a 20-year-old dating a 23-year-old is contentious. There’s no age gap at all. Who exactly is having a problem with this?

    He sounds like a perfectly normal person who just doesn’t read the news.

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      Somewhat well adjusted, untouched by the corrupt hands of those unfamiliar with the prickly sting of fresh grass.

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      He said “you already know that bothers a subsection of the population”.

      Not that anyone actually did, that was in his imagination.

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        Oh it bothers a certain kind of chronically online person. Tbf it’s a very small number of people, but they do exist, and are quite loud

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        Ok…but that’s not the scenario in question.

        I mean, fuck, imagine if he beats her and killed her dog. We can “imagine” things all day.

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          It’s not but one is an adult and shouldn’t be in a relationship with the kid

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                That’s not true. About half the states in the US have “Romeo and Juliet” laws to protect couples in this situation. For example, when my husband and I started dating I was 19 and he was 16, and that age gap was perfectly legal in my state.

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                  the kids themselves breakup when they turn 18 to avoid being frowned upon

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            Yeah but this is only happening in your made-up story that didn’t happen and isn’t relevant to what we’re talking about, so why you going on about it?

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            Maybe not in the republic of Mormon land but fuck you retard. I had the best time in my life at that age, guess what I was the 16 y.o. part.

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        In my native country that’s perfectly fine as well, if the age gap is less than 5 years and one is less than 18 they are literally both kids, whether one of them has passed an imaginary line or not. This is just being pedantic. You will reply “uhhh so an 18 years old should be able to date a 13 years old?” completely ignoring that a 17 yo can anyway date a 12 yo without any problem. What are we even talking about? At that age parents should supervise them anyway

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    I am 24, autistic, straight edge, and a data analyst. I’m the youngest person in my company, the closest person to me in age is 45. I haven’t used a regular social media site since I was 14. My only interaction with modern discourse is my girlfriend’s 18 year old sister. When she talks she might as well be speaking another language. My hobbies are unix, classic literature, VHS collecting, and synthesizers. My girlfriend calls me her 80 year old boyfriend.

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            Sure but it’s not intended to be.

            Also a big part of it is imo that you never interact with the same people on sites like reddit or Lemmy, you don’t follow anyone or anything.

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              I often see the same people over and over again on lemmy since its a small community. I even saw the same nicks on reddit often (like shittymorph). But yes it isn’t intended to be ego centric like other sites.

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        I guess they mean Facebook, Xitter, etc. You know, the big ones.

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          I think anonymous social media, while still social media, occupies a very different category from non-anonymous (identified?) social media. And the default interpretation of “social media” is the latter.

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            That’d make Twitter not social media for people not using their actual names.

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              Alot of people do use their names on Twitter, and they really encourage you to follow, buy, and sell.

              I don’t recall people calling forums social media, and Lemme (and Reddit) are more like forums, with you following the subject. Not each other. Very much like BBS back in the day except with links.

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                The tougher requirement of people using their name would leave very few social medias. Basically just LinkedIn and Facebook, with Twitter and others that have usernames but also named people being in the grey area.

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                  Even though there are anonymous people on twitter, it still asks you to follow, and the posts are generally self promotion, not discussion of topics. That is the big difference.

                  Lemmy is media, without the social part. Unless you really want to. I have not even looked at the users names I respond to, because that does not matter. On twitter, it actually does, real name or not.

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        More or less, but they specified “regular social media” which Lemmy is not

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        I’m on kbin. But I’d consider this and other reddit inspired websites to be closer to a forum than a social media. Sure, you can use it like a regular social media site, but it’s more tilted towards a forum method.

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      Am I out of the loop? I didn’t think being a straight edge was something to be proud of. I feel like it includes a good amount of intolerance and judgement. It’s this not the case?

      Edit: man, I was expressing my impression from what I’ve read on the Internet and asking for more information. I wasn’t expecting to get down voted for trying to understand better

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        I don’t know if people are proud of it. Most people that I have known that are straight edge just don’t want to do drugs or alcohol. I haven’t known them to be judgemental of others who do, to each their own.

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          According to a punk guy I used to work with the straight edge movement originally had a nonjudgmental camp and an extremely judgemental camp. Can’t too much speak to that claim myself as I’ve never been on the punk scene but he was in general a trustworthy dude which leads me to believe there’s at least something to it even if it’s not quite right. But again I’m not in the punk scene so maybe I’m regurgitating bullshit

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            Maybe the non judgemental ones doesn’t post on social media and the judgies are the ones that originally gave me the impression and down voted me :shrug:

            The vocal minority can really skew perception

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              The og judgementals could just be old too, I’m in my late 30s and these guys are a decade older than me

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        I just don’t care to put substances in my body that are effectively toxic. If you think, being high at all times is the best way to live life, then more power to you.

        Really, it’s annoying that people think we’re judgemental. I’m guessing, lots of folks judge themselves for it, but as long as everyone else does the drugs, they aren’t confronted with that.
        As soon as I dare to exist, not putting toxic substances into my body, they’ll feel judged, because I’m adhering to their moral standard of not doing drugs, effectively reminding them that it would be doable.

        If I come up with some bullshit reasoning, like I’m the designated driver, rather than the truth that I just don’t want it, they’ll feel more at ease. Although, I guess, that would also be the case, if they truly thought I was actively judging them.

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          I have friends that don’t drink and don’t do drugs. Neither of my adult children do (18 and 20). I think it’s great. I don’t fathom why question was down voted. I think it’s awesome that you you don’t succumb to the pressures of society an live your life in a way that makes you happy. Keep kicking ass ❤️

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            Your question might have been downvoted, because people (including me) read it the wrong way.

            I thought, you were saying people shouldn’t be proud of being straight edge.

            And your reasoning:

            I feel like it includes a good amount of intolerance and judgement.

            …, I thought, was supposed to say that you think people, who are straight edge, are themselves very intolerant and judgemental.

            Words can just be ambiguous, I guess.

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        Yeah, I’m proud that I have self control and have maintained a lifestyle that many people fail at. I’m proud to be associated with a community of people that live the same way. It’s better than being proud of how much booze you can down or how high you can get.

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      He said “you already know that bothers a subsection of the population”, not that it actually did, it just did in his imagination.

      I’ve literally never even once heard someone raise a fuss about an age gap that small. Dude sounds like an ass.

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        CallMeCarson got into a huge controversy for exchanging photos with a 17-year old when he was 20. People like that exist and ruin lives all the time.

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      I see this come up on social media, moreso with Gen Z and people that just like to be outraged about stuff online. They seem to be more sensitive to age gaps and call it grooming, even stuff within the typical “half your age plus seven” rule that most millenials and older gens seemed to find normal. I’m not sure that only 3 years would be a problem even for them though.

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      I had a friend who irritated this part of the internet with fanfiction and got death threats because of it! It’s really stupid lol they’re called “antis” because they’re anti everything.

      They’re so insane that they have called characters who knew other characters (all fictional characters, treated as seriously as though this was real life, mind you) when they were underage but ended up dating when both characters were canonically both above 18, they call the older character in that scenario a groomer. With their full chest. When no grooming activity has taken place. It’s very black and white. Also very “you should have known you would have offended me with that idea”-y which is very not good for creative work areas.

      This is the side of the internet that infantilizes full grown adults, thus making a 20 to 23 year old age gap “problematic” (in heavy sarcasm quotes because I pretty vehemently believe there is nothing wrong with 2 consenting adults being in a relationship together. Problematic is a useful word still, but this just is not what problematic looks like)

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        its Tumblr.

        the word you’re looking for is Tumblr.

        Tumblr was historically split down the middle between fetish porn, and people who just had to take offense at everything to feel special about themselves.

        Now those special folk are all thats left, now that Yahoo removed the porn.

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          No, not just Tumblr, they thrive on Twitter as well. That was where my friend got the death threats primarily. They did sprout from the Tumblr younglings though. I’m convinced antis are what happen when you’re catered to too much lol

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        They’d have had a field day with a situation that played out when I was in my 20s.

        One girl I went to high school with, who was a few years older than me, had a big crush on the new young science teacher that started at our school in her junior or senior year. She took his classes and was friendly and close with him, but as far as I know, nothing inappropriate happened, and he was absolutely, positively, strictly professional the entire time.

        Then she graduated and went off to college and they stayed in touch. Again friendly. Maybe less “strictly professional”, but certainly not romantic, even though anyone who knew her knew she had had this crush on him for years at that point.

        After college, or even later in her college years, they start hanging out…as friends, maybe as casual dates, idk. Then after she finished college they quickly started dating, became a serious couple, and eventually got married and started a family.

        Was it weird? Sure. But was any aspect of it inappropriate? Ehhhhh…idunno. I don’t think anyone ever “crossed the line” at any point, but comments were definitely made, eyebrows were raised, and rumors ran wild.

        But in the end I think they kept it kosher enough, and by the time they got married, I feel like most people had gotten to the point that their reaction was more or less, “Yeah I guess it’s kinda weird, but whatever. It’s none of my business and if they’re both happy, good for them.”

        But the kind of people you’re talking about would’ve had a meltdown.

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      It’s not, this a fake story used to drive rage engagement. The person making it up thinks certain people (feminists I’m guessing?) Would care about a 3 year gap between consenting adult just because they care about actual stuatory rape.

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        It’s not the math in question, it’s that 3 seems to be a small gap when the younger party is 20

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    Maybe it’s because I’m a foreigner; maybe I’m also too disconnected, but I didn’t get half of the supposed contentious items listed in this post.

    Reading the comments, I was like, ‘oh, that’s what they meant by…’. The body count really surprised me, and in a negative way. Body count sounds so… tasteless. But who cares. Since I don’t use that expression, I’ll probably forget it soon (the good side of having a lousy memory).

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      Body count sounds so… tasteless.

      It is. Definitely not something I’d include under “modern discourse”. I’d say a co-worker asking that and using that particular term is the one that’s disconnected from the present.

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        They’re drunk playing truth or dare, really doesn’t seem that disconnected from the present to me to ask for their body count in that context.

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          Guess we live and work in different environments. The only place I still see people talking that way and using such excuses for it is in the mandatory sexual harassment training videos.

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    And this man is probably the most mentally healthy man this guy knows as well.

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      Jesus fucking christ, right? I look at all the comments calling the dude autistic and just think - when these kids are 30-40 and look back at their life, they’ll realize this guy was the most well-adjusted individual they ever knew and spend their mid-life crisis trying to emulate him by deleting their social networks and finally doing shit that pleases/develops them instead of shit that get them likes.

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        But so many of them will do the first step right in disengaging from social media…but then will only ever be able to make the next step be bragging about step one and trying to shame anyone and everyone who is exactly what they were not too long ago.

        And one crazy effect I’ve seen is that it’s no longer stratified by age.

        I rarely get on Facebook anymore but lately when I do, it’s full of people in their 50s and 60s, who are totally absorbed in that social media life and have their own strange cultural bubble among similar users, that I’m totally unable to relate to beyond observing it for what it is.

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    What is “body count” in this context? Does it mean your number of sexual partners? If so, that’s very dismissive and reductive.

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      There’s a pretty good Wikipedia article on it

      As mentioned, it’s the Jordan River to the Mediterranean. It’s been used by Palestians since at least the mid 60s in a number of different chants, e.g. “from the river to the sea Palestine will be free/Arab/Islamic” (technically, the latter two are “from the water to the water” because otherwise the Arabic doesn’t rhyme).

      Hamas’s charter says

      Hamas rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea

      While Netanyahu’s far-right Likud party’s 1977 manifesto says

      between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty

      It’s historically been somewhat controversial, with Zionists typically saying that it calls for the destruction of the state of Israel and/or the expulsion of Jews from the area. CNN fired a political commentator for saying it ~5 years back, and it’s regulated as hate speech in some places in Europe. Most pro Palestinian activists think that’s ridiculous, but it’s worth being aware of.

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        I mean the original charter for Hamas also mentioned ‘killing the Jews’ but I’m sure it was a side point 🤔😅

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          The current charter specifically makes a point of saying that that’s not what they want though. Makes a point out of dragging a distinction between Jewish people (they don’t have a problem with) and the Zionist project (which they do have a problem with

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            I’m pretty sure they took out the genocide part just because it is a bit derivative. They’re committed to peaceful protests I agree.

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      Borders of Palestine. Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea.

      From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.

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          Israeli colonialism? It’s not a difficult concept ig you stop trying to deflect any criticism of Israel by calling it antisemitism.

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            You’d have a great point if they said: Gaza and Westbank will be free, but they’re not saying that. They’re saying “from the river to the sea”. A quick glance at the map will teach you that this includes the entire internationally recognized territory of Israel where about 7 million jews live, who are not colonists.

            So what people actually mean when they say that they want that area to be free is that they want it to be free of jews. And that my friend, is a call to genocide, also not a difficult concept.

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    The person who wrote this sounds like a twat. Why judge the guy and put him on blast because he doesn’t follow the same social norms as you?

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    This is one of those people who dont live or care about the internet, honestly this sounds like a very healthy lifestyle.

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    Lemmy really gives reddit for boomers with these made up rage bait posts like this.

    Gets straight to the top and everyone is saying they wish they could be this guy because they don’t care about modern issues and want to go “back to the good ol days”. Rage bait didn’t even get rage, just people creaming over the idea of not thinking about global issues and trans rights.

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      I think people are just sick of all the self righteous fart smellers and the idea of someone who hasn’t gotten sucked into paying attention to them is endearing.

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        A couple months ago I was hanging out with my teenage cousin and his friends. I said something funny, and a friend said “what is that a reference to?” The problem I have is that I’m expected to be “making references” and all jokes are “memes”. There’s barely any original comedy to the point where original jokes are misunderstood as “rare memes”. I just say funny things. I’m not referencing anyone. I do like memes, but not everything is a meme.

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          Lol “kids these days” you’re saying the same shit people have said to shit on younger generations since Aristotle. And you’re calling them unoriginal.

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            Uhhh no? I’m 24. And the whole meme craze is driving out original comedy in favor of in-jokes. Also, I doubt Aristotle complained about tiktok memes

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        Why is it helpful to think about gender or global news exactly? Isn’t it better for mental well being to focus on your loved ones and what you can accomplish in a day. I don’t appreciate attention whores sucking up my time usually.

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          Because gender or global news may be important to your loved ones or just other humans you might like to show basic respect and decency to. You don’t need to become well read on every subject anyone might be passionate about, but it really doesn’t take a lot of effort to learn some pronouns and generally what’s going on in the world so you can be kinder to others.

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            Thank you, well said.

            Isolationist me me me, why would I care about something that I’m not aware affects me or people I love even though it absolutely does attitude is the boomer mentality.