It’s like the old saying, “If you see a child stealing food, no you didn’t.”
If you see anyone of any age stealing food, no you didn’t.
Nah.
Rich people steal for “fun” sometimes.
And something like baby formula is often stolen to be sold overseas, not because they needed it.
Maybe so. But if there’s any possibility it’s a genuine need, don’t ruin a baby’s chance to get fed.
Uhhh?
These people stripped shelves empty, causing many babies to go hungry because nothing was in stock.
I feel like taking a whole shelf of baby food is a bit noticable.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_United_States_infant_formula_shortage
Notice how theft, shoplifting, or resale aren’t present anywhere on that page. The media overstates claims of the prevalence of shoplifting all the time. The claims around shoplifting are bullshit
The question is about which is worse: do you what kids to suffer to make sure nobody can enrich themselves. Or do you allow some scumbags through the net but no child goes hungry?
Ideally of course you could have both but that would first require a few guillotined politicians and capitalists.
Unless you’re that store’s manager, you should be more upset that people who are hungry aren’t being fed to the point they resort to theft.
Actually, you should be more upset by that either way. I understand not wanting to support theft of food just to eat but something is wrong when you condemn it.
I support theft of food to eat.
I don’t support organised crime denying babies food.
Seeing? In this economy? Surely not.
Fair.
Exactly
One of my favorite movies!
Couldn’t say it better myself.
I like thinking he was avenging some family member(s) who died due to claim denials, or something along those lines. If we find out he’s some Qanon weirdo operating on some conspiracy about endrinochrome or whatever, it’s really going to dampen the vibes.
I sincerely hope he was. I hope it felt really good. I collected a mountain of screenshots from Facebook today of people who had lifesaving claims denied by them, and it’s so shocking written out even though of course it isn’t.
Just pointing out that had it been an average Joe who got assassinated and we had a clear picture of the killer’s face we wouldn’t even have heard about it on the news. Now they want everyone to look for him.
To be fair, a c level assassination is news, whereas a murder in a big city is not. It’s not about the chicken, but the seasoning and presentation, young chef.
To be fair, a c level assassination is news, whereas a murder in a big city is not.
You state this as a norm, to me your perspective of this as an acceptable norm is the problem itself.
My thoughts :
Your post states authoritatively what the norm is. No challenge here, that is the norm. True.but…
Why is that the accepted norm?and…
What causes that to be the accepted norm?so…
So if net worth affects the public services you receive in the form of police assistance, bounties, etc… isn’t that an indicator of a larger problem?so…
Who benefits from the stated norms?and…
Should we change those “norms”, kinda seems unfair huh?Yes.
Not perfectly written, but I think you get my jist. I’m so tired of people stating the norms of society as if they are immutable truths and not symptoms of a broken system.
Have a nice day.
"We live in capitalism. Its power seems inescapable. So did the divine right of kings”
-Ursula Leguin
I mean they say this is the guy they’re looking for…but is it?? I don’t recognize him at all. Also he doesn’t seem to have that fancy backpack in between pictures. This leads me to believe that these are 2 separate dudes. Clothing colors are also different.
We don’t know.
I’m gonna sound like a conspiracy theorist, but what do you think happens if they can’t find a perpetrator? They find a scapegoat. They do that often, even with low-profile cases, what makes you think they won’t do it for a high-profile case?
To the people of New York:
We have a responsibility as citizens to respect our civic duty to justice. You may be selected for a jury to try a suspect for this murder. It may be the one responsible, it may be a scapegoat. In either case, after the judicial proceedings, you will be asked to assent to a verdict. On that day, you will be required to ensure justice is served. On that day, remember just two words: jury nullification.
I’ll admit, you had me in the first half.
For anyone genuinely considering jury nullification, it’s also probably not a good idea to bring it up before deliberation. Lawyers typically try to get jurors dismissed when they’re aware that it’s actually an option.
You also kinda need to convince your fellow jurors to vote “non-guilty”. But do so discreetly.
Hung jury is a mistrial. Mistrial means the prosecution can try again. (Double Jeopardy doesn’t apply to mistrials) If you were the only one who voted not-guilty, chances are, the next jury will vote unanimously guilty.
Its very easy to get kicked off jury before deliberations, so what you wanna do is: After deliberations begin, try to covertly nudge your fellow jurors. For example, if the suspect did not say anything that’s a confession, say “Are y’all sure this is the guy, I feel like he’s been set up.” Make excuses on why he might not be the perpetrator.
Only when you are sure that you or only like 2 or 3 of you are saying “not-guilty” then try to say things like: “But should we really convict this guy when the CEO that died was a horrible person?” Just try not to say “jury nullification”, keep making excuses on why you are voting “not-guilty”.
Interestingly, just due to the inclination of the executive branch to “get a conviction” fast, at any cost, it’s actually pretty likely that is in fact “the wrong guy”. The investigators will be under pressure to find someone, and will use available technology in an absolutely, horrendously wrong way just to get a “result” and use that as a justification to accuse random unlucky people. Of course, anyone with deeper knowledge of involved technology would know that, but they’re not working for the ill educated LE operators.
All something to consider when potentially ruining someone’s life because some dumb fuckers got an innocent joe as the wrong person because they deformed under pressure and couldn’t successfully do their job. Happens way too often
Everyone reading this, watch the movie 12 Angry Men and take copious notes.
Lol that movie is not legal advice.
They essentially conducted their own investigations, in real life someone in the jury would’ve snitched to the judge and the whole trial would get rules as a mistial due to jurors conducting their own investigations. Then new jury gets convened and they wouldn’t have that solo “non guilty” juror. The kid on trial would’ve been executed, sadly.
Edit: Great movie tho
Lol that movie is not legal advice.
Not what I meant.
You were going on about carefully convincing other people to vote not guilty and all I could think about was the process of persuasion that slowly flipped the jury in that movie.
Everyone needed something different for them to consider, then actually believe, that the defendant might be innocent.
I did try to be specific: on that day.
Lemmy.world amended their TOS to ban people for promoting Jury Nullification.
Goodness, when was that?
After they banned everyone for it, and later said they would change the TOS to ban people for it.
Wow, that’s a fucking stupid take from the mod.
That instance is becoming more and more like that bunch of losers, the DNC 🤦
I mean there’s a million eyes on them, they’re either gonna get the right or the whole DA is gonna be in a world of shit.
If it comes out they intentionally framed someone cause they couldn’t find the right guy, there’s no way this won’t come out. Already disregarding the heightened likelyhood on jury nullification and general unwillingness for the public to cooperate.
There’s so many news stations in proximity and so many people who’d speak out in a nanosecond, they can’t even get to fuck around before they find out.
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Also, the guy on top does not have teeth and the guy on bottom has teeth.
Also the guy on the bottom has cheekbones for days. Guy on the top is less defined. Can’t be the same person.
Pretty sure his dress is gold, not blue 😆
He was likely in New York for days before the shooting. Presumably not wearing the same clothes the whole time.
And suddenly an entire city has facial blindness.
Facial blindness and knowledge of jury nullification, for reasons…
Oh I like that phrasing even better! I changed the meme. Thank you!
No worries, I love that they’ve released his face and still no one’s saying shit. The poors are working together for the greater good.
Edit: Also, why does the first picture look like a young Joe Rogan?
I was just asking in another thread for this to replace the Drake meme and you already did it you glorious bastard
I’m going to assume we all saw those security camera photos and immediately thought of the Drake meme. Because you and I couldn’t have been the only ones…
Guy on the bottom has a mouse cursor over him so it’s obvious the pic is AI. Can’t prove the top pic isn’t also AI. These pics tell me nothing…this guy probably doesn’t even exist.
What does a mouse cursor have to do with that? It’s likely just an old school literal screenshot.
My assumption is that the comment was making a joke to just ignore this face because it isn’t real. I assume they know it is, it’s just an excuse to not pay attention if you see someone who looks like this.
You would be correct.
If anything it makes it less likely to be AI imo. The cursor is pretty much perfect, and you can make out the pixelated diagonal line
The mayor of New York City literally said in an interview that the guy was masked the whole time and the face pictures were generated using “police techniques”. Why is no one talking about this???
I think you’re probably misinterpreting the quote. Here’s the reporting on this from the NYT:
Mayor Eric Adams said Friday morning that the investigation was “on the right track.” In an interview on Spectrum News NY1, the mayor added: “This person was fully masked, and we used good old-fashioned police work to come up with the picture you have.”
I think what the mayor is saying here is that because the alleged killer was masked, the cops actually had to do some detective work, canvas door-to-door maybe, pull security footage, that sort of thing. It wasn’t just a case of sitting back and running facial recognition on the killer like something outta CSI.
Unless you’re thinking of a different quote.
That was the quote. Thanks, I really did not understand that. I mean, if the guy was “fully masked”, they wouldn’t have a face shot. He should have said he was “mostly masked”.
I assume they meant full masked during the shooting, but if there are enough cameras you can follow where someone originated from before they put their mask on and grab a image of their face from maybe a dozen streets away half an hour before the shooting.
Yeah I can see how the quote is super misleading.
First they use our help to search sunken rich people, now they want our help to find rich people killers.
Anybody else see this photo and think 1) damn, that’s a nice smile; he’s fine, and 2) my hero.
I mean yeah he’s charming but that ain’t the guy. Different jacket, different bag.
I mostly just wish people would stop posting pictures of him. I don’t want the wrong person to actually recognize him, and get him caught.
Why the fuck is that mouse cursor pointing right? How did that happen? What kind of loving God would allow that?
It’s a left handed mouse 😁
The image is mirrored.
Yeah, I mirrored it to make the Drake meme format work. But my question is why the police left a mouse cursor in their security camera photo? Here it is in the original: https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/800/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2024/12/5/30d31dc7-3902-4f14-aa0f-f6ba39f3a79d.jpg.webp
They likely didn’t know how to save the file, so they took a picture of the screen.
That sounds quite plausible…
The God of mirrors and reflection
I collected a small mountain of screenshots from Facebook of people who had United Healthcare claims denied.
Thanks for your service, mysterious internet person!
I think this scene summarises the situation very well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRcfqpyuk9k
Mr inbetween is the best show no one has heard of. I’ve watched the whole series multiple times now. I’m sad it was so short. Personally, I think it is better than other popular/critically acclaimed shows like breaking bad.
I’ve never heard of it. Will watch it today.
I don’t see anything similar at all. Nope.
Make this into the trolley problem: five people on one side, sad shooter face. One person on the other side requires manual intervention. Happy shooter face.
Now instead of 5 people, make it 5 million.
The magnitude of good done from this act is astounding.
