• Reddit_was_fun@lemmy.worldOP
    2814·
    1 年前

    First GW OC poster to post an image of herself (sorry boys) naked holding a can of beans is going to melt this place down faster than KBins backed up queue.

  • leyland1989@reddthat.com
    1342·
    1 年前

    Just remember how quickly Tumblr fold after they started banning porn.

    Don’t ever underestimate the power of horniness in which large part of the internet runs on.

    • Beefalo@midwest.social
      627·
      1 年前

      That dead woman called Tumblr is still walking with a healthy strut these days, also soaking up some displaced Redditors. Horny shit is slowly but surely returning to Tumblr’s fields, as well.

      Tumblr illustrates the problem with porn in general, they didn’t shut it down for no reason, they shut it down because the pedos had decided to use it as a dissemination portal for their vile shit, and the structure of Tumblr made it difficult to moderate away, especially at scale. Thus, Apple threatening to pull them from the app store, for good reason. All they could do was go scorched earth on porno.

      So that’s the issue we’re going to have, here, and I’m not sure if the “some guy running an instance for the fuck of it” model is prepared for it.

      • Ookami38@sh.itjust.works
        471·
        1 年前

        The key difference with lemmy is, if that one instance is the one disseminating cp, they get defederated, and so removed from the other normal users, and then if the instance doesn’t shut down, LEO gets involved. The other normal porn-hosting instances can operate business as usual.

        • Clbull@lemmy.world
          13·
          1 年前

          Law enforcement would probably shut down such instances faster than the rest of Lemmy could collectively defederate them.

          Hosting such stuff on the clear web is basically asking for a joint FBI, NCA and other major law enforcement agency raid on your premises.

          • Ookami38@sh.itjust.works
            4·
            1 年前

            I don’t know, law enforcement can be pretty slow. I definitely see a few cease and desists happening before any real action, and as soon as that starts, the sane instances defederate.

            Regardless, the point is, they get taken care of in one of a multitude of ways.

          • MrPoopyButthole@lemmy.world
            3·
            1 年前

            The piratebay has been running since 2003 - 2023 on the clear web. Thats how hard it is to take down a website when done properly. With the few times its been down and/or raided thats still 99.99% uptime.

            • Clbull@lemmy.world
              9·
              1 年前

              The Pirate Bay is a very unique case because:

              1. Hosting costs are very low due to the inherent nature of torrenting. It’s essentially just an index of magnet links used for downloading torrent files. Apparently the whole TPB directory could fit on less than 100MB of storage. They don’t actually host any of the illegal content they provide.
              2. They’ve hosted the site on multiple cloud services, which law enforcement would have to play an endless game of whack-a-mole to truly dent.
              3. Sweden are notoriously lenient on piracy and copyright infringement. TPB’s founders only faced a year in prison and a hefty multi million dollar fine when they went to trial.
              4. United States authorities are very unlikely to get the Swedish courts to extradite these individuals, because their 1960 extradition treaty is quite strict on what offences one can be extradited to the USA for, and the only mention of piracy on there refers to the maritime kind. Compare this to how easily Kickass Torrents was taken down and how the Polish authorities nearly got its founder flown out to the US to face trial.
              5. The hosts not only provided the knowledge to but outright encouraged others to host mirrors/proxies of the website to get past DNS censorship.
              6. There are ways to detect CSAM which makes it a lot easier to track down and lock up individuals who access it. Another big difference is that producing, distributing, and even possessing CSAM is seen as a far more heinous crime against humanity than downloading a pirated movie copy.

              TLDR: there are three things that could survive a nuclear armageddon: cockroaches, Keith Richards and the Pirate Bay.

      • Clbull@lemmy.world
        262·
        1 年前

        Not quite how it happened.

        Yahoo banned porn on Tumblr because Apple found a CSAM image on their platform, banned their app from the App Store, then as a condition for unbanning the Tumblr app, issued them an ultimatum to outright ban pornographic content. I originally thought that Yahoo’s justification was an excuse they used because they couldn’t be bothered to invest the resources needed to purge illegal content from their platform, but apparently Discord have been hit with similarly puritanical demands from Apple and Google, who basically have a monopoly on what apps go on your smartphone,

        Nevertheless, Tumblr’s porn exodus is the core reason why Yahoo sold the platform to Automattic for pennies compared to how much they originally acquired Tumblr for. It even sparked a renaissance of lewd artists flocking to Newgrounds - a site that was originally on its knees due to the death of Flash animations and browser gaming.

        It’s also worth noting that Automattic have since partially dialed-back the ban. Nudity is allowed on Tumblr again, but graphic sexual content isn’t. Obviously they did this in direct response to Elon Musk enshittifying Twitter. Another reason I think Tumblr is living on is because it was known for three things: porn, niche fandoms and social justice warriors. Musk has notably burned bridges with any Twitter users who oppose hate speech.

        God forbid if Tim Cook and Sundar Pichai find out there’s porn on Reddit…

        • Spaceman Spiff@lemmy.fmhy.ml
          10·
          1 年前

          Do you have a source on that? It doesn’t smell right. Every platform (All of them. Every single one. No exceptions) that allows user-submitted images/videos has an issue that some of that content is illegal. CSAM is the most obvious, but not the only one. What made Tumblr different from the 20 million+ instances on Facebook? Source1, Source2 At the time, scrolling through r/All for just a few minutes was nearly certain to show something pornographic, although not CSAM.

          The story I heard (admittedly, I’m having trouble finding a source at the moment) is that Tumblr’s tools to remove CSAM weren’t good enough. While they would remove the offending image when it was reported, they did not delete the connections to other users/groups. Which meant it was easy to find more, even after some had been removed. In turn, that meant that it quickly became the platform of choice for anyone uploading this stuff, creating a higher volume and ratio of illegal content.

          While I know Apple has long been anti-porn, it seems unlikely that they would take such an arbitrary hard line while ignoring countless others.

    • rabquest@lemmy.world
      401·
      1 年前

      “I’m fairly sure if they took porn off the internet, there’d only be one website left, and it’d be called ‘Bring Back the Porn’”

    • void_wanderer@lemmy.world
      382·
      1 年前

      When I browse “all” on here, there is the occasional tiddy in between. I appreciate that. Reddit’s r/all was so much better when nudity wasn’t purged from it.

      • Ookami38@sh.itjust.works
        461·
        1 年前

        Dude right? You scroll a bit, read some shit, laugh at some wit, and then there’s a tit. It wa perfect.

      • ParsnipWitch@feddit.de
        1·
        1 年前

        Can I 100 % ban all porn from my feed? I feel like people aren’t obligated to flag their porn stuff so how can it be filtered?

        • Coelacanth@lemmy.world
          3·
          1 年前

          Probably not yet. Hopefully better tagging and filtering features could be implemented in the future, right now the devs are understandably busy with performance optimization however. Third party apps might be able to filter better client-side, too. Blocking entire instances for example (like lemmynsfw.com).

          If you want porn gone from your All feed right now you have to manually block subs that allow it. It is possible, but will be tedious. You can turn off NSFW completely on your profile, but that also filters out non-porn NSFW posts of course.

          Edit: your Home feed will be clean as long as you don’t subscribe to any subs that allow porn. But that doesn’t give you the chance to find new subs like on All.

        • I Like Eggs@lemmy.world
          1·
          1 年前

          Yeah, it’s difficult to scroll Lemmy on the bus to work because of all the boobs. I still want NSFW posts, just not necessarily boobs.

    • mercurly@slrpnk.net
      18·
      1 年前

      One of my required classes in college had a day where the professor just talked about all the times porn determined the newest media distribution standards.

    • 25thSkye@monyet.cc
      16·
      1 年前

      Technology has more or less flowed with the proliferation of porn. VHS (over Betamax), bluray (over HD-DVD), online payments and other Internet features rose to prominence because pornographic content helped spearhead their adoption.

    • Spaceman Spiff@lemmy.fmhy.ml
      91·
      1 年前

      I’m not sure that’s a valid comparison. Tumblr was overwhelmingly porn, which was its biggest selling point. The only thing dumber was when OnlyFans tried to ban hardcore porn (Fortunately, I guess, they saw the light pretty quick and relented)

      While Reddit always had porn, it was never the primary draw.

  • Crampon@lemmy.world
    1337·
    1 年前

    OF models Ruined all the porn subreddits. It went from sources material to some chick having a seizure for 8 seconds hoping you will give her money.

    • DMmeYourNudes@lemmy.world
      12·
      1 年前

      Tbh that whole instance should have a rule about 0 self promotion to paywalled and/or abridged content without a link to the full source for free as well. It’s really anyone to have any links stifled because he OP is an onlyfans model. If you wanna post here for advertisement, you better put up or shut up.

  • emanon458@lemmy.world
    962·
    1 年前

    Where is this porn located so I don’t accidentally stumple upon it? Thank you so much.

  • Skiv@lemmy.world
    931·
    1 年前

    This isn’t even a shit post, just being objectively aware of reality

  • Nausiyan@lemmy.sdf.org
    976·
    1 年前

    Fun fact, you can actually tell how the economy is doing based off sex workers tips and income. It’s actually more reliable than any other financial marker.

  • 💡dim@lemmy.world
    841·
    1 年前

    Porn and piracy.

    The two things guaranteed to drive any platform.

    All aboard the VHS train baby…

  • czarrie@lemmy.world
    675·
    1 年前

    Oh good, can’t wait for my feed on here to be absolutely slammed with porn bots. We made it, boys.

    • korewafap@lemmy.fmhy.ml
      29·
      1 年前

      My porn account’s front page is already full of it. My regular account on a no nsfw instance sees no porn

      • Resistentialism@lemmy.world
        8·
        1 年前

        Seeing as we are both alt porn users, if I disable NSFW on my main, will it show me non porn NSFW? There’s a community called uncle jokes and a lot of their posts are marked NSFW. And I don’t wanna miss them.

        • apigban@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          6·
          1 年前

          I don’t have an alt account yet but my blocklist is about 50+ communities long now, so much porn already when you sort by new on all.

          • ThatSandwichGuy@lemmy.world
            4·
            1 年前

            What occurred to me is you could have an account on a no porn instance which doesn’t allow access to porn instances, perhaps that may be an answer.

          • Thorny_Thicket
            1·
            1 年前

            That’s interesting. My blocklist is almost exclusively german communities (because I don’t speak german) I see zero porn on my feed and I haven’t quite figured out why. I know sopuli.xyz doesn’t allow porn but I don’t get why I’m not seeing it from other instances either.

    • smoll_pp_operator@vlemmy.net
      2·
      1 年前

      My lemmy page was already covered in weird fucked up hentai and drawn stuff when I signed up. I’ve had to block communities one at a time, just to have non-pornographic NSFW content.

  • Nanachi@lemmy.world
    526·
    1 年前

    So the more quality of porn falls down, the more active sites become… Understood.

  • Olap@lemmy.world
    486·
    1 年前

    You aren’t wrong with this theory. It’s why betamax and hd-dvd lost too

  • kemsat@lemmy.world
    371·
    1 年前

    Yup. Only reason I still have Reddit is the quality porn. As soon as I can get the same elsewhere, it’s dead to me.