(yes, it even uses less water in water-scarce places)

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    I like oat milk. It tastes the best and it’s one of the least environmentally impactful, I think

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      Easiest to make at home, no need to buy EXCEPT for convenience. You can also get calcium powder to add to what you make so…yeah. oat “milk” is the best really. Love it.

      With all this said, I do love to taste of Horizon UHT whole milk that my kid drinks… Lol so if I forget to make my oat milk, I grab one of these.

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        The inconvenience really killed my drive to make it myself, so instead I got a plant milk maker. Haha. Paid for itself after about a year.

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          How does it work? I’d love to not have to buy oat milk anymore, but I’ve never had good results trying to make it at home.

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            It’s pretty much a blender with a tank, a heating function and self-cleaning. It has different options for different type of plant milks, which (I suppose) change how much it heats the water and how long it blends everything. Which is pretty much what they do for the store bought oat milk as well.

            What makes the biggest difference in taste though is not the maker itself (although it does make a difference) but using Amylase when you’re done blending. It’s an enzyme that breaks starch into sugar. Without it the oat milk will probably be pretty thick or even kind of slimy. As far as I know it is also used in store bought milk to give it a natural sweetness.

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              That’s very intriguing! What brand/model milk maker did you buy?

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                I have a Springlane plantmilk maker. It was just under 200€. Can’t speak for the brand in general but I have the maker since last year and I am still happy with it.

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              Amylase… It’s an enzyme that breaks starch into sugar. Without it the oat milk will probably be pretty thick or even kind of slimy

              oh wow that’s a good hint! Whenever i tried making oat milk myself yet it ended up either slimy or otherwise to watery.

              I wonder why i have never seen it as an ingredient in commercial plant milk yet.

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                You don’t necessarily need to declare enzymes in food manufacturing. They are consumed/used/deactivated before the final product. They would be listed as “processing aids” in the process description, just like pH adjustment chemicals, activated carbon treatment, antifoamer, etc.

                Source: engineer in food industry.

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                  With answers like this I have the feeling Lemmy is finaly complete! Thank you!

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    oat milk is the best I’ve ever had, it’s the only one someone has given me and i didn’t immediately identify it as not real milk

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    I don’t know if there’s any way for humanity to continue at all at this point, it seems that whatever is done, there’s always a downside to it. Never mind the cost (not just monetary) to an average person regarding many of the alternatives.

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      It is BONKERS to me that I get up-charged $1 to have 6oz. of steamed oat milk in my coffee instead of cow’s milk. Carbon footprint of oat milk is tiny by comparison, cost of production is lower, WTF?

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    I’d happily switch to a non-dairy alternative, but finding a plant-milk that has the right mouthfeel seems to be an uphill challenge.

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      If you’re into chocolate milk, I’ve found pre-mixed chocolate oat milk to have a really nice mouthfeel (IMHO better than cow milk). Obviously, your mileage might vary, though, depending on the brand…

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      I haven’t personally tried these, but there are some plant milks that try to be closer to dairy out there like NotMilk, NextMilk, WonderMilk, etc. I’ve also read that peamilk is generally pretty close to dairy

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        i’ve tried them - but honestly after such a long time with out dairy they seemed a bit to greasy for me personally. But if you are into the taste they might be a very good alternative to ordinary plant milks!

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      So I don’t think it was the intended purpose, but I recommend trying barista styles. I was the same, I found the nondairy alternatives too watery, like skimmed milk. However getting ones that call themselves barista style fixes that, the viscosity is closer to real milk. Personally I go for Oatly, you can probably guess what it uses. Will vary based on location of course.

      https://www.oatly.com/en-gb/stuff-we-make/oat-drinks/oat-drink-barista-edition

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      I tried a bunch, I don’t like any of them and on top of that they are more expensive. So I’d have to pay more to enjoy it less.

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      Soy is great. IMO it tastes worse than oat when it’s basic milk (no flavorings etc.) but if I’m not mistaken it has much better nutritional values and so much protein I simply can’t pass on it (as a vegan I get basically 0 protein a day, as you would probably know, and soy milk is the only source of it)

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        You likely get more than you might think from other foods. A surprising number of foods have decent amounts of protein that you wouldn’t expect and that can add up

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          I’m into fitness so I prefer soy milk, 6g protein once or twice a day goes a long way towards reaching my goals! I was joking about the no protein lol

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    Almond milk would arguably be one of the better options if it weren’t for the fact that 80% of the world’s almonds are being grown in a desert going through a mega-drought.

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      Yeah, though it’s worth pointing out here again that dairy milk is still worse in that regard in those regions:

      One graph even has California’s animal feed water usage so large it actually goes off the chart at 15.2 million acre-feet of water (it is distorted to make it fit as it notes). For some comparison, the blue water usage of animal feed is larger than all of almonds water usage of ~2 million acre-feet of water

      https://pacinst.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/ca_ftprint_full_report3.pdf#page=25

      Pastures themselves are often in areas that don’t receive much rainfall and need watering. For example, one chart from 2003 put California’s water usage just for pastures higher than crops from human consumption. Since then the rankings may have changed a tiny bit, but the water usage is still enormous just on pastures alone

      https://www.researchgate.net/figure/California-Total-Water-Use-by-Crop-2003_fig3_294579954

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        Oh absolutely. I’m just saying that in ways other than water use almond milk is actually better than a lot of other plant based milks. It’s just the combination of high water use and being mostly grown in an area suffering from a major water shortage that makes other plant based milks a clearly better choice if they’re practical for you. It’s still better than cow milk though.

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        I agree. I eat a lot of meat. But one day in the week I have oats with fruits as breakfast. Having no access to raw milk, i looked for replacement to soak the oats in. First a ricemilk, but after having found out it had some form of soy added, i dumped it. The job’s tears is 100% pure. excellent replacement IMO.

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          Whoops was meaning to reply to the post rather than your comment. Hope you find a raw milk source. Recently lost my cow milk source so I know how that goes. Got some goat milk, but it’s pricier not great for making butter.

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        It is the position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics that appropriately planned vegetarian, including vegan, diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits for the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. These diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and for athletes. Plant-based diets are more environmentally sustainable than diets rich in animal products because they use fewer natural resources and are associated with much less environmental damage. Vegetarians and vegans are at reduced risk of certain health conditions, including ischemic heart disease, type 2 diabetes, hypertension, certain types of cancer, and obesity. Low intake of saturated fat and high intakes of vegetables, fruits, whole grains, legumes, soy products, nuts, and seeds (all rich in fiber and phytochemicals) are characteristics of vegetarian and vegan diets that produce lower total and low-density lipoprotein cholesterol levels and better serum glucose control. These factors contribute to reduction of chronic disease

        https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27886704/