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  • We should push for large institutional change, but don’t ignore individual change either. Problem is how will you get said governments to act if people aren’t also stepping up and they expect backlash to acting? The more people expect it to be cheap and highly consumed, the harder it will be for them to act. Moving people away from meat individually makes it easier. Movements that succeed usually have both individual and institutional change

    Institutional change that is achievable at the current moment is smaller. There’s been some success with things like changing the defaults to be plant-based (which is good and we should continuing to push for that), but cutting subsides is going to be an uphill battle until a larger number of people change their consumption patterns




  • It’s fundamentally inefficient. The claims of “green” meat production are greenwashing from the industry. The industry would love for you to believe there is a way that they could clean it up. It takes growing tons of crops just for most of that energy to be lost by the creatures moving around, digesting, etc.

    Plant-based foods have a significantly smaller footprint on the environment than animal-based foods. Even the least sustainable vegetables and cereals cause less environmental harm than the lowest impact meat and dairy products [9].

    https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/14/8/1614/html

    Nor is something like grass-fed production a solution when that has even higher emissions due to higher rates of methane production from cows. It also is even higher land demand

    We model a nationwide transition [in the US] from grain- to grass-finishing systems using demographics of present-day beef cattle. In order to produce the same quantity of beef as the present-day system, we find that a nationwide shift to exclusively grass-fed beef would require increasing the national cattle herd from 77 to 100 million cattle, an increase of 30%. We also find that the current pastureland grass resource can support only 27% of the current beef supply (27 million cattle), an amount 30% smaller than prior estimates

    […]

    If beef consumption is not reduced and is instead satisfied by greater imports of grass-fed beef, a switch to purely grass-fed systems would likely result in higher environmental costs, including higher overall methane emissions. Thus, only reductions in beef consumption can guarantee reductions in the environmental impact of US food systems.

    https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/aad401


  • If you are going to make criticism, please make informed criticism

    On the senate side they did challenge quite a bit as violations of the Byrd rule and got the parliamentarian to strike down some important parts of the bill. Provisions ranging from the attempts to limit court’s abilities to hold people in contempt (pretty important one) to anti-trans medicare provisions to the federal land sell off. Think it was something like 15 provisions struck down for violating the rules of reconciliation (the narrow exception to the filibuster used to pass budget bills).

    The struck provisions didn’t end up in the final passed bill. And note that article is about the house which that limitation does not apply to. The filibuster does not exist in the house. Debate is time limited as well. The only reason Jeffries was able to speak as long as he did is the convention to not count a party leader’s speech as being longer than one minute. Republicans could have cut him off if they wanted to

    EDIT: And again, this is not a defense of either chamber’s leader in general, just that they actually did this time what people were calling on them to do earlier. If you want to shit on Schumer for helping passing the CR in March where he actually did give up real leverage from the filibuster (was not passed through reconciliation), then rightly go ahead. Just endlessly frustrated at the desire for a magic wand to fix it all that doesn’t exist. Criticize where it counts or we’re wasting our energy in the wrong places


  • They didn’t have the votes to kill it in the house - the best they can do procedurally is delay it

    What specific action would you have preferred them to take that wouldn’t have required 4 house republicans breaking rank or 4 republican senators breaking rank?

    EDIT: and to clarify this is not a defense of Schumer and Jeffries in general, just that here in this specific case they actually did much of what people were asking them to do - use their procedural powers to delay things more. They don’t have magic wands to stop things without a majority of either chamber



  • They really don’t understand the structure of the poultry industry. The genetics are controlled by Tysons and Aviagen who breed around 90 to 99% of all chickens in the industry in the US (similarly high globally). Primarily the Cobb 500 and Ross 308 which are both fast growing. They do it this way because the industry wants their super fast growth at the expense of their health

    Fast-growing chickens that make up almost all the industry are already known to be at a higher risk of illness and have a worse immune system. They have all kinds of other health issues from difficulty walking to hock burns

    The methods of mass killing on disease detection are also quite cruel too I should add, but this administration don’t seem to be too concerned about that. Look up ventilation shutdown and foam depopulation if you want more info on that