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Tense confrontations between police and demonstrators in L.A. continued for a second day on Saturday, in response to operations by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents
Donald Trump’s border czar, Tom Homan, said he plans to send the National Guard to Los Angeles to combat protests against ICE that began this weekend following immigration raids in the city.
“We are making Los Angeles safer. Mayor Bass should be thanking us. She says they are going to mobilize—guess what? We are already mobilizing. We are going to bring the National Guard in tonight,” Homan told Fox News.
His comments come after Senior White House adviser Stephen Miller railed against the protests, calling them an “insurrection” against the United States.
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They shot and killed college kids at Kent State for less. They maimed people at BLM protests and killed several, too. Those cowardly Conservatives will do anything to shut people up that rock the boat and threaten their power.
I love that ICE is such a bunch of shriveled nutsacks that they have to send in Gary from Accounting to come bail their asses out.
Can people tell me why we keep using the stupid fucking “border czar” term? I want to know who the fuck these people are and what their actual titles are. It makes reading headlines such a fucking chore. I end up having to google the context of a headline like every 4th article.
For those curious, Tom Homan’s actual title is White House Executive Associate Director of Enforcement and Removal Operations
“czars” are unaccountable and powerful. Thats why these public employees like the term. They should be called administrators or “public servants” because thats what they actually get a paycheck for, not for strutting around playing billy badass against American citizens.
This particular borderbitch public servant should go sit his TSA self at an airport and shut his overfed piehole. Nobody cares what he thinks.
Because the constitution says we can’t call the president king, but if we name everyone in other positions “border king” “energy king” etc. in Russian, we can normalize the king concept. Maybe a shitty nod to Russia as well?
Confounding that they are so willing to use a Russian term.
Our government really wants us to be feudal, apparently.
We know Himmler’s name we should also know Homans.
Mayor Bass should be thanking us
I see another “did you even say thank you?” moment coming…
“Trumpanmen” square about occur.
During his first term, Trump asked Mark Esper (then-head of the DoD) to use live ammo on protesters, and he declined to - Source
That role is now filled by former Fox News host, Pete Hegseth.
“rioters and looters”
These are just protests and there have been no reports of looting.
I watched most of it on TikTok live since Friday. It began with a hit and run of a protestor by ICE.
I definitely didn’t see looters, but protestors were throwing rocks, cinder blocks, and M80s, and lighting cars on fire. That prompted ICE to don riot gear and deploy tear gas.
This is a bad idea. We don’t have the numbers to get baited into escalation. This will only embolden fascism.
Edit: Please share this.
We don’t have the numbers to get baited into escalation.
Huh? You absolutely do. And remember that this started because ICE was rounding up people off the street, so “not getting baited into escalation” would require allowing that to happen, which goes against the kind of solidarity necessary to depose Trump’s regime.
Our largest protest was 5M people nationwide. That’s smaller than the percent of communists that Hitler incarcerated in his first wave of detentions.
We are smarter than Trump. Let’s fucking act like it.
Fascism will escalate regardless, in the absence of real resistance they will simply lie to justify doing what they were always planning to do anyway, passively accepting their actions will do nothing to help, resistance is the only correct answer and it will absolutely have to be violent
I watched it happen all day yesterday. Protesters are throwing rocks through windows of vehicles as they drive by. They’re lighting M80s and throwing them at the agents.
The VAST majority is peaceful. Many are throwing rocks. A few are taking even further.
I get that they’re pissed, but this isn’t the solution. Refusing to walk into a trap isn’t cowardice, it’s strategy.
Protesters are throwing rocks through windows of vehicles as they drive by. They’re lighting M80s and throwing them at the agents.
alleged protestors. The cops always sprinkle in agent-provacateurs to get exactly what they want. They quite literally even do it in sewing and knitting circles if they have any political message.
That’s absolutely true. I’ve experienced unusual bad actors personally many years ago, and I certainly wouldn’t put it past this administration.
You watched and learned nothing, resistance isn’t a trap and your passivity won’t save you
I never said resistance was a trap. I said violent resistance was. Violence will hand Trump his Reichstag Fire on a silver platter.
Nonviolent “resistance” is worthless, idk what part of “they will make shit up anyway” you’re not understanding
Trump is itching to enact the Insurrection Act. That will make growing our numbers far more difficult. Meanwhile, you’re advocating losing resisters to incarceration, scaring people back into their homes due to unsafe protest conditions, while giving Trump the justification he needs to strip our rights.
Do you always think with your feelings? You should try your brain. Logic and strategy know no cowardice. They only know how to outthink the opposition.
Yeah, we need more peaceful protesters to be attacked by cops and counter-protesters, then get blamed for the violence.
Or maybe the fascists will eventually just decide to stop, all on their own…
Or we could act on emotion and lose a portion of our resistance to a clear trap set by the dumbest president we’ve ever had.
Bro is already licking the fascist boots as it’s just getting started.
How about you read a book about Nazi Germany and then we can talk? Fighting fascism with less than 2% of the population is how you get your resistance incarcerated.
We need more people. We lose people with violence.
It’s okay lil bro, just give up. You clearly aren’t cut out for anything.
I’m clearly more educated than you. It’s emotional reactionaries such as yourself that give the fascists justification to legally suspend our rights. Maybe spend less time at the gym and go find a library.
No you’re right, the best way to deal with fascists is clearly to bend over backwards and give them what they want. Just give Poland to Hitler, it’ll make him happy /s
I’m saying violent resistance is the reason we’re about to lose rights and people to incarceration. Protestors will be too afraid to protest for their safety. I’m saying violence is not productive. Why is that hard to comprehend?
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Too busy licking the fascists boots to actually be educated. The fascists that are cutting funding for college universities that fight back against his antidei policies, quite literally using the military to end a protest, and using unmarked armed gestapo to disappear people.
re·ac·tion·ar·y /rēˈakSHəˌnerē/ adjective (of a person or a set of views) opposing political or social liberalization or reform.
The comment that I made, that you challenged, was that we need to keep resistance peaceful. Don’t lose the point. You’re advocating for a reduction in our resistance because your feelings outweigh your thoughts.
We fight this with peaceful resistance until we have more numbers in the streets or we fall like Nazi Germany, chipped away little by little.
Just like during George Floyd protests, there will be undercover cops there smashing windows to enable these false narratives.
The same voices keep saying that Jan 6 was a peaceful protest that was misunderstood.
Homan also complained about backlash directed at ICE agents during his interview on Fox News. The border czar, when asked about Democrats who have called for ICE agents to work unmasked, said he was looking into what could be done to stop their criticism.
“We’re asking the DOJ to look at these statements and see if there is something we can do,” Homan said.
We’re living in a time where the highest policing authority in the nation is openly trying to subvert first amendment rights by charging elected officials with crimes for speaking out against authoritarianism. Great.
A masked policing agency isn’t anything but a cult motivated mob. They are no better no than the KKK. They are following orders they know the population will not accept. Therefore they have abandoned their oath to protect the populus, and chose to serve only the rich.
Call me terrible, but the best thing we can do is tell them they will all serve life sentences for their actions when Trump leaves office. 100 year sentence for every ICE member that assists or assaults member of our community. If they are in a state that offers the death penalty, they should be able to choose it if they wish.
The best we can do is prematurely end their life and make anybody who continues this unlawful rampage fear for their life.
Sorry. I’m generally pacifist, but peaceful discourse and verbal threats will not solve this.
A masked policing agency isn’t anything but a cult
Eh, a lot of Mexican and central American police need to be masked some times or the cartels will murder there families, so there are some valid reasons. There hasn’t been any cases of ICE agents being targeted outside some possible “attacks” on social media as far as i know so they’ve got no excuse.
Honestly, ICE are changing that by being malicious dipshits. Hopefully the good guys won’t do ‘guilty by association’, but I have a feeling that it will be difficult to keep ourselves from descending into madness.
This sucks. 😩
I recommend getting a firearm and becoming competent with it sooner than later
As I understand it, that TS12 uses three magazines simultaneously. That is asking for a lot of jamming, simply because there are more moving parts.
I think the VR80 would be better, it can accommodate 9-rounder magazines, is a semi, ambidextrous, and Cali compliant. The VR80 has a split or lever action, so you can remove magazines fairly quickly while on the range. If law goes out the window, you should be able to uninstall a small pin by the magazine release. This voids the compliance, but in war…well, who on your side is going to care?
Also, it is AR-15 patterned, so you can modify it a fair bit. About the only downsides is that it takes about 250 rounds to loosen up, and an annoying compliant stock. Initially, it jams a fair bit until you have broken it in.
Super helpful, thank you so much!
doh
Here ya go. These are American made, I’m pretty sure.
https://palmettostatearmory.com/guns/shotguns/semi-auto-shotguns.html
Every gun subreddit post I found called the panzer turkshit. Evidently if you want a reliable American AR style semi auto shotty you’re gonna have to shell out at least 3 grand.
Fair enough. I prefer crossbows to firearms. Those also run $2500-$4500
These all only seem to have 5 rd mags? Dang.
In the extras section of that site they have 5 and 10 round magazines, a 15 round drum, and a +2 extension designed for the 10 mags.
My feeling is that if the people of CA don’t fight back with equal, brutal force, America is officially done and this will happen everywhere.
I’m not sure what else one can do.
Fighting back is the only thing that works. Look at 2020. Fighting back effectively kept the number of Trump W’s in that time in the single digits.
The absolute cowardice and cuckoldry the Democrats have shown isn’t a path to stopping fascism. Time to dust off your gear from 2019 folks.
Liberals will always go for fascism over actual change because they make money off capitalism. It’s why the DNC just fucking destroys any chances of actual leftists from getting elected
Visionary battle plan of “sit back and do nothing, then they’ll find out!” (How controlled we are as opposition.)
It’s a joke that is infinitely unfunny.
W’s?
Wins?
yes.
Democrats, even in the minority, were highly effective at stopping Trump from getting almost anything done legislatively, and also were effective somewhat at curtailing his executive overreach.
A major component of that was how they embraced the left, which was mostly focused on BLM, as a source of outside power. The inside outside power game can be highly effective when both parties understand their roles.
2025 and Schumer and Jefferies decided on the strategy of curl up and die, after basically denying the base of the party a place at the podium last convention. There are still some good Democrats, but the rest need to embrace their base.
Well the old guard dnc do not want to let the grift that they have been leeching off the gop go away
I was just asking about the initial ‘W’, but thank you for elaborating anyway.
First video we see of a drone strike officially makes it a civil war. Either side.
I have to think that if anyone is going to fight fight, it’s Los Angeles.
Get ready for the fight to come to your town.
It feels dirty rooting for LA from the north bay but go LA! Grrrr…
(We have a great sports rivalry in this state for those who need context) ;)
Media attention benefits the Trump agenda and the point is to set off the powderkeg. There is no deescalation.
To cause a riot is the point; that’s why punishment for objecting to agents was fortified as soon as the turd defiled the white house.
Americans will die, but only those who oppose Trump’s agenda.
There is no deescalation.
Nor can there be deescalation with fascists. Trump is looking for a fight, but fundamentally there can be no way to stop him but a fight. Something something they came for the immigrants, and I ____ (fill in the blank).
Americans will die, but only those who oppose Trump’s agenda.
I wouldn’t be so sure about that.
I guess I should have worded that better. The danger is to the citizens defending our immigrant community from ICE raids.
Americans will die under Trump in other ways too like measles, lack of healthcare, food insecurity, pollution, violence, etc.
That’s not what I was referring to.
Resistance fighters.
Going to lose, butt czar.
Gaining just a teensy tiny bit of faith in Americans, though I’m still flabbergasted that it took this long before non-cybertruck cars started burning.
Unfortunately, I don’t think we can take credit for most of those.
