The general principle that building takes more time than destroying is pretty solid - in general. However, applying it to politics is absolutely insane.

You ever hear that war is politics by other means? That’s a good principle too, and the reverse is what applies here. Politics is war by other means. Republicans know that. They are fighting a war and Democrats are dutifully putting up villages they can’t defend. The clever villagers are defecting before the tanks roll in.

As I already pointed out, what you “think” stands in absolute contrast with everything that’s happened in politics in this country and globally for at least the last 100 years. If you and people like you don’t wake up, we are all fucked. (Assuming we aren’t already).

Reasserting what you think, instead of addressing my arguments, puts you at the same level of rationality as MAGA. The country didn’t get the way it is by magic. Democrats hollowed out voters skulls, then Republicans filled them. Remember that when you complain about what the country wants.

I don’t think anybody expected Biden to be that good and, no, that’s not the point of the criticisms at all. The point is that the establishment is guaranteed to wheel out another Biden in 3 years and it’s critical that we shut that down.

You are far from the only person operating on that theory of gradual change, but it’s dead wrong and exactly what brought us to where we are today. In fact, it’s exactly what leads to fascism every single time it ascends. Weak neoliberals fail to take care of people, and the people turn against them.

Look at how much gradual change the fascists are able to tear down in the span of a few months. What are they afraid to tear down? Social Security and Medicare. It’s the big changes that rapidly gain the popularity needed to survive right wing onslaught. Everything else dies.

Oh please. Biden didn’t just live with the Trump aftermath, in many cases he chose to keep pushing it. He was a mixed bag, doing a lot of great things that Trump never would have, but he did a lot of bad without anybody twisting his arm.

I feel like a ketamine overdose is right around the corner. It’s too bad that good news isn’t allowed to happen.

The bill is horrible enough on it’s face. Tipping culture is a cancer. This just cements it in place. Why should two people with identical earnings pay different amounts of tax just because one got it in tips always? This is bullshit based on yet another Trump brain fart on stage.

It’s also perfect for running adds against anyone who votes against it, so I have no doubt it will pass.

way not knowledgeable than Vance.

Nailed it! :)

Well, we are talking about Roberts here. Then again, we’re also talking about Vance.

I didn’t know that leaders do everything by themselves and nobody else gets any credit for those achievements. Sounds pretty authoritarian to me. Hmm, maybe you’re the Trumpist. All hail the god king!

No rational adult has ever used that word this way

So I’m a Trumpist now? Or just not rational? Uh, sure, whatever you say.

Yes… Chairs are dictators accountable to no one.

Thanks for telling me that you aren’t a serious person. I see no reason to continue.

The process started almost immediately after the election.

Yet the decision just happened. What a coincidence that the decision was to do what the establishment has always done and protect old guard Democrats.

The country has been taken over by fascists because of the Democrats weakness. Approval ratings for Democrats are in the toilet. Yet the very idea that there should be standards for Democratic politicians is treated as heresy. It’s literally insane.

Again, the process started at latest right after the election.

Again, you don’t get to just redo an election - especially for something as ridiculously petty as the excuse they found. No rule was broken, only the suggestion that the spirit of a rule could have been better adhered to. The entire point of the rule was to seek gender parity and there were two male VPs and two female. To undo an election instead of adjust the process for future elections is ridiculous - especially when they knew everyone with a brain would notice that they put this issue ahead of rescuing the country from fascists. THIS IS HOW OLD GUARD DEMOCRATS ACT.

I’ve heard all this cope before when I argued that Clinton would be just another Reagan Republican,band when I argued that Obama wasn’t going to be a new kind of Democrat. I’ve been in this fight a long time, and this is just the same old cope. You believe what you want, most people do, but your just more blue MAGA from where I’m sitting.

We can look at how he ran Minnesota’s state party, turned a purple state blue and made it one of the most progressive states in the country.

All by himself? Did he fix the Minnesota party by protecting conservative Democrats there too? This reads like all the delusion about Musk establishment Democrats had in ages gone by. “Look at all the great things he’s doing for the planet!”

while he isn’t overtly progressive, what he cares about is winning elections.

That’s a contradiction. It’s also the definition of who “they” is.

after 50+ years of Lex Luther running the party, we really don’t need anything more from the party.

Alternative definition of “they”. “You got your marginal surface level improvements, now sit down and shut up or we’ll blame you (again) when we lose.”

Fuck them, you’ll never see me defend them.

You are them, just nextgen.

They’ve said that before. Somehow they always seem to find a way to come to the rescue for an establishment friendly incumbent.

They are redoing a vice chair election because one of the vice chairs they picked decided to push for primary challenges to the old guard. And you think that’s a sign that the old guard has fallen? That’s some Republican level bullshitting right there.

You don’t redo an election once the elected people take office - especially for something like the questionable reasons they offered. Trump’s election had a stronger basis for being challenged than this, but the Democrats accepted that on this basis.

2nm is 20A on the agnstrom scale used by Intel, and Intel has an 18A process that was projected to hit production late in 2025. TSMC isn’t projecting anything better until 16A in 2027.

I have no idea how Trump’s trashing of the Chips Act factors in, but it does still seem to be a real race.

Oh, it’s definitely karma. It’s just ignorant to expect Americans to overthrow the government and not end up with something even worse than we have today. That’s just not how the modern world works.

So? How many of these happened without the outside instigation and assistance I mentioned? Copying and pasting a list of every revolution is kinda missing the point. Also, how many of these ended up with as bad or worse dictatorships?

Oh, sure. That’s why there are no other fascists in power anywhere in the whole world.

I’m betting that they continue to play puppet-master with Donald Trump Jr.

I support the criticisms, but history will just see this as the thousandth time this has happened across the globe, and not nearly the only place it’s happening right now.

Generally speaking revolutions like you speak of are not a feature of the modern world. They only happen when a stronger and more wealthy outside force helps drive them. That’s notably not something that can happen in the strongest and most wealthy country in the world.