I love lemmy so much more.

Not to mention reddit banned me lol but for some reason it felt like a weight was lifted.

Why do you think lemmy hasn’t ‘gotten up there’ yet like reddit?

The only thing that makes me sad about lemmy, is there arnt many posts.

Unless I’m filtering wrong.

Do you guys have any lemmy sub/community suggestions?

What do you think of lemmy?

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    Lemmy doesn’t cover nearly as many broad topics as reddit does. Its built up its userbase over the last 15 years and a lot of people will continue using it for another 15 years even with their stupid fucking new reddit design (that has been around for what, five years? Not really new anymore) Maybe one day they’ll finally nuke old.reddit.com and that will be the final straw for many users. Their userbase is so big that they can go on banning long time users like you and me and it won’t really affect the company’s bottom line.

    Also I think Lemmy should allow for video uploads like v.redd.it. I know the devs want to keep vids on peertube but AFAIK there’s really no integration and I have seen very few actual peertube links here. The ability to upload short vids would be a good feature IMO.

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      Exactly. Some obscure subreddits have more users than entire lemmy instances (if not all of them combined)

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        People like to say they dont use Lemmy because its mostly tech stuff, however there’s way more content and discussion of tech stuffon r/homelab and r/selfhosted.

        These days its hard to attract new users to websitesbecause a lot of them got sucked into Instagram, tiktok and other stupid apps that seem to be winning over the youth of today.

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          Crash course in digital decentralization!

          Basically Lemmy is the social platform right? These are maintained in servers, but here’s the catch: anyone can run lemmy on their own homeserver!

          You and I are right now conversing on https://www.lemmy.ml but this is only one instance. Each instance is basically its own platform but uses the lemmy source code, each has its own rules, communities and moderators.

          Here’s a list of instances you can sign up to (right now you have a lemmy.ml account)

          But not only that, here’s the wilder part: those instances federate with each other! This means you can communicate with people from other instances without leaving yours. This is why you occasionally see here people with usernames that end with “@lemmygrad.ml” or “@beehaw.org” and etc.

          Here are the instances that lemmy.ml federates with.

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      To put a name to this, network effects. It’s the name for the effect where a product gets better when it gains more users, growing pains aside. It’s extremely common among social media platforms.

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    1. Reddit is a private company founded in 2005, valued at $1.8 billion dollars and employing around 350 people. Lemmy was founded two years ago and is run with relatuvely little funding (I would say approximately two paid employees and a dozen or so volunteers, distributed around different instances). That’s not comparable. At all.

    2. Most people aren’t banned from reddit. Your personal experience is rare. If someone isn’t banned from the biggest platform, they need a motivation to leave. Why would they leave? I know why YOU would leave, but why would THEY leave?

    3. Most people coming here, not all but most, are doing it because they were banned from reddit. As a result, they just try to recreate reddit here, instead of making something better, a better culture or a higher quality of community. Lemmy is treated by the majority as a ‘free speech reddit’ and nothing more.

    4. Strong political bias in the popular communities may be distasteful to the majority of people who would use a reddit-like site, who tend to be pro-capitalist liberals.

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      We’d love to be able to start a proper open-source programming collective, with the ability to hire more programmers than just the two of us to add features and make lemmy better, but the money just isn’t there. Its difficult to compete with a multi-billion dollar company that’s able to pay high salaries and mobilize hundreds of skilled programmers ( even tho I still am veryy proud of what we’ve been able to do with our limited time, and all the contributions people have made to lemmy ).

      Its not a specific problem for us either, all open source projects need more funding than theyre currently getting to thrive. Twitch streamers make more money than open source devs, its a pretty sad state of affairs.

      IMO pretty much the only reason reddit is beating us, is the first-mover advantage. I noticed a long time ago that adding more features doesn’t improve the lemmyverse’s user count. Its only when reddit alienates certain groups, that we see large influxes of users and new instances. Otherwise people are happy to stay on reddit, because that’s where communities already are.

      /r/piracy is probably the next big community that could migrate to lemmy. Reddit keeps banning then unbanning piracy-related communities, and file-sharers will see that their position is precarious there. /r/privacy should move to lemmy, the reddit redesign is a bloated mess of spyware.

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        I agree, the first mover advantage is huge. These are social sites, merely being a “better” product isn’t enough (but I do think it’s necessary).

        I suppose an advantage for us of reddit’s position (that is, bound foremost by venture capital and profit, and therefore to reputation and popularity) is that we will inevitably see more entire communities alienated and cast out, and Lemmy is demonstrably already in a position to catch them, as we’ve seen with /r/GenZedong, /r/ChapoTrapHouse (hexbear) and /r/chodi (bakchodi). Like you said, /r/piracy is basically an inevitability, or even a gateway (if they said something like “If you want to share links, visit /c/piracy”). I wonder if it’s worth keeping a watch-list of places at risk, or places that might want to come for cultural reasons like /r/privacy or /r/foss (EDIT: I also wonder if the gateway strategy could be useful for political subreddits if there are boundaries they can’t cross due to site rules despite the subreddit moderators being fine with it)

        In that case, it seems ironing out all the major usability bugs for newcomers is the best strategy rather than adding new features.

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    It’s not really that deep - it’s a combination of network effect and inertia.

    Because there’s “nobody” on Lemmy, people don’t join Lemmy. Because nobody is joining Lemmy, there’s “nobody” on Lemmy, and so on and so forth.

    Furthermore, Reddit (and other big social medias) already have “everyone” there, so to the vast majority of people they’re just superior platforms as it’s easier to find both people and content. Moving to another platform means giving that up.

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      I agree with this. I love the fediverse and have been using it in some form for quite a long time. I’ve checked in on lemmy periodically over the last year or so, but ultimately I spent a lot of time reading topics on somewhat niece subjects and so the lack of posts has been a huge factor.

      It feels like it takes one of these self-imploding events to really cause people to move as one to something else.

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    I like Lemmy, but Reddit does have a lot of momentum, and unless there’s a huge controversy or a significant portion of the community is displeased enough to seriously look into alternative, I don’t see Lemmy catch up with Reddit. But that can be a good thing too, as a small community is usually more tight-knitted.

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    it’s a niche product that doesn’t provide any advantage to the average user compared to reddit and can’t make up for the critical mass reddit has.

    It’s just another case of hackerism without a strategy that goes beyond “we make a tool, we hope eventually somebody will use it”

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    unless you are using an app, the user interface is quite terrible. Reddit has good previews, we can see the post, we can see the link and much more. lemmy is basically reddit in it’s infancy and I feel like they are not even trying to make it better. So heck, who cares. I want this website to have more people but it is what it is.

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      I do want to devote more time to lemmy-ui, because I agree it could be better. I do need to know of specific issues with it tho, so I can improve it.

      I’d rather be working on the android app I made tho for lemmy, jerboa, because kotlin as a language is hundreds of times easier to use than typescript.

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        hello, will send the issues someday as I am quite busy right now. I think you need to make this site profitable first for yourself. Maybe nerdy advertisers would pay a buck or two to advertise. Generate money hire more people would be my suggestion.

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          Definitely never gonna have ads, or paid features, we’ll only ever be donation funded. But there might be better ways to structure that.

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    I kind of like Lemmy how it is. My experience is once things get too big then you start getting a large amount of silly people with even sillier opinions that they need to jam down your throat. Lemmy reminds me of the old days of the internet when you needed a certain level of technical “know how” to get on. Once the internet in general became easy for all, then we got groups of village idiots making it suck.

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    Mostly the same problems as I discussed here: https://nrsk.no/post/27990/comment/7188

    Unfortunately after spending around a month in the Lemmyverse my experience is that Lemmy’s biggest problem is toxic users. They rather send people away from the lemmyverse instead of directing them to a suitable server. It seems there’s a lot of ideological harassment.

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      Lemmy will never win such a race to the bottom. It should not.

      Perhaps so. We sometimes get blinded by the desire to expand indefinitely, but I’m content with the current activity on lemmy and the slow yet sure growth.

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          For some reason I am downvoted, but I think I told truth about a lot of snowflakes.

          You lumped together fascists, liberals, conservatives, and other groups. You’re lumping together a wide variety of people, many of whom mutually despise each other. So yeah, you’re going to get a few downvotes from people that are offended at the comparison.

          It’s like lumping together Nazi Germany and the USSR. They both had authoritarian governments and the Nazis were National Socialists. Surely they were practically the same, no?

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              National Socialism is an incorrect word used by NatFashes for obvious purposes, even though national socialism is an oxymoron created by morons.

              Thank you for proving my point about people not liking to be tossed in a bag with other groups that they despise.

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          I don’t want lemmy to be like that what I’m trying to say is, there is not much discussion. And there’s so few ppl, there arnt many posts to interact with

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      those hideous racists

      You’re serious? Let me laugh a lot harder.