Summary

A Tesla Cybertruck crashed in Piedmont last November, killing three college students after hitting a cement wall and bursting into flames.

The California Highway Patrol (CHP) attributed the crash to intoxication and high speed but found that the victims likely died from the fire.

Testimony revealed the vehicle’s doors would not open after the crash, preventing rescue attempts. A survivor was pulled out after a bystander broke a window with a tree branch.

The CHP’s investigation into the crash remains ongoing.

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    But when he attempted to pull Tsukahara from that same window, Riordan testified, “I grabbed her arm to try and pull her towards me, but she retreated because of the fire.”

    Remember that the right wing media rushed to blame this on speeding and intoxication without mentioning that they were still alive and able to move when the vehicle was on fire. They were cooked alive inside, foreseeably and preventably, and that was covered up in a way that maximized the shame the victims’ families felt. Deplorable.

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      The Cybertruck fans have basically just decided that because one of them was a drunk driver they don’t need to think about the rest of it and it’s fine that they died.

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    I bet, if they were to analyze the car’s logs, they’ll also find that nasty behavior in the software, where it disables all the autodrive stuff before impact, including ceasing to brake, so it can’t be “blamed” for causing a wreck. (Whether or not they were using it at the time.)

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    Well, say what you want, but tesla is the only one doing something to reduce the republican voters base.

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    This is propaganda, opening a cybertruck door is very easy.

    First you bring up the “doors” menu on the console. Then tap “right door” to get to the right door sub menu. Then tap “open”. If you get error “tsla3456” that means the truck is on fire. Normal cars don’t recognize when they’re on fire, this is a smart thing done by smart people at Tesla. So then you just go back to the “doors” menu, tap “right door” again, then “advanced” and then “overrides”. Enter the error number you want to ignore in the “ignore errors” item. Now you go back to “doors”, “right door” and tap “open” and the door will open easily.

    Tesla even offers a free “door opening” course that’s just 2 hours long to go over all of the options you have for opening your cybertruck doors. It’s really the victims fault if they didn’t bother to learn how to use their vehicle.

    /s I fear this is needed …

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        i’m sorry for my rudeness, but i think that’s a skill issue. Give it a couple more seconds of thought and realizing a shitty door locking mechanism/system faulting and not deliberately convoluted menu programming is pretty clearly the reason for the door failure.

        you know i started that reply and then i found that NHTSA’s staff has already been cut by 4% cause DOGE(pronounced “dough - ghee”) and now im like yeah actually this might be the kind of thing that gets thru regulators now…

        PS mods, if the skill issue comment is a rule breaker i can remove it, pwease dont ban me again for ‘attacking the person and not the argument’.

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      If you follow these instructions you would be dead within minutes! Tsla3456 is for water Tsla3356 is for fire You would know this if you did the advanced fire safety course for $450. It was the only thing I heard about a the basic door course.

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        Also be true in your typing as there’s no backspace option on the keyboard.

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        Water in a Tesla results with fire, though, which is why the Tsla3456 is nothing but an alias for Tsla3356.

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    “after a bystander broke a window with a tree branch” Ah yes, the bulletproof windows that could double as submergible windows for an unspecified amount of time at an unspecified depth.

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    One of the worst things about this incident is that it was some teenagers and early 20s kids. College freshman that burned to death or died of inhalation while someone tried to rescue them 😢

    • That is absolutely horrible and heartbreaking to read. I wish more people would actually understand what dangerous pieces of trash Tesla’s are and quit buying them all together.

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    But the boycott is still “illegal”, you guys.

    Remember when Failin’ Palin was bleating about “death panels”?

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    There are cameras inside the car, it self drives… imagine if it used AI to decide if the driver was Jewish. Or queer. Or just a particular individual who might be thrown out a window were they in Russia. And it steered itself into a wall and burst into flames, destroying any internal telemetry that might tell the story.

    The technology is there. The regulatory agencies that might investigate are gutted. There is nothing but the integrity of a few programmers standing in the way. Programmers whose livelihoods and perhaps admission to the US are at stake.

    That feels awfully thin.

    There’s a fucking conspiracy theory for the nutters.

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      imagine if it used AI to decide if the driver was Jewish. Or queer. Or just a particular individual who might be thrown out a window were they in Russia. And it steered itself into a wall and burst into flames, destroying any internal telemetry that might tell the story.

      That’s basically how the plot of Upload kicks off, and when I realized “holy crap, that’s totally possible”.

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        You’re the only other person I have ever heard mention that they had watched that show. I liked it. I thought it was decent, but nobody else seemed to.

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          Oh, I think it’s great. Can’t wait till season 4 drops. Definitely an underrated show especially if you like near future, corporate dystopia black comedies. There’s also the meta humor that it runs on Amazon Prime Video.

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            Oh, I thought it was canceled. The last season I saw was season two. I should check out season three!

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              AFAIK, it’s not canceled. It just goes forever between 10-episode seasons that always end on a cliffhanger.

              Edit: Ah, the upcoming fourth season is the final one.

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                Four seasons is a pretty good run for this type of show, IMO; at least if it’s as well planned and thought out as The Good Place (not to dissimilar concept) was!

                I think I’m also only around ~2 seasons in, as I cancelled Prime a while back… might have to fly the black flag and catch up on S03!

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          Another good one with a related theme of technology morality is Made For Love, I think it’s from Max

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            Yes, now Made for Love was great. Way better than Upload imo.

            Damn, I really forgot that show existed until just now…

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          I don’t even recall how I heard of it, lol, but it’s really good. Definitely one of those hidden gems in the sea of crap-quality streaming shows.

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            If you can get over the weird color saturation thing, it wasnt good enough for me to have that bizarre super bright reds and pinks

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        Very underrated film. I saw it in theaters and thought everyone was gonna go crazy for it then barely heard anyone talk about it.

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      There are cameras inside the car, it self drives… imagine if it used AI to decide if the driver was Jewish. Or queer.

      How would a camera determine if you are queer?

      Also, I am just imagining the piles of blackmail material Tesla has on it’s customers.

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        AI. I didn’t say it would do a good job, lol. It’s a conspiracy theory. It doesn’t have to make sense, it just needs to be barely plausible.

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      I don’t think that a lot of the people who would be likely targets for such an attack are the same people who would be buying Teslas in the first place.

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        They might well already have Teslas. They are far more likely to drive them (I think) than the good old boys out in the country.

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        It’s their marketing selling something non-existent, the patent doesn’t mention anything about bullets.

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        The glass is not bullet resistant. The doors barely qualify, if they don’t have to stand up to an actual firefight.

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          Resistant

          There is no guarantee to stop even a small caliber

          Small caliber at high velocity would go straight through

          You could say a thick metal wall is small caliber bullet proof because no matter what velocity, the small chunk of metal is never passing through a few decimeters of solid metal.

          Small caliber piercing round at high velocity, straight through the stainless steel door.

          Slap some plastic on that bad boy

          You’d really trust that as a bullet shield?

          Normal 9mm across the street. Probably going through

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              Yep small caliber proof for sure

              My favorite part of decimeters is 1 inch is 1/4 decimeters. 3 decimeters is foot.

              So if it’s like 8 inches. I can just say 2 decimeters

              From there you can say 20 centimeters or .2 meters

              If something is 12ft it’s 36 decimeters or 3.6 meters

              There’s no easy way to turn 8 inches into centimeters other than knowing that 1 inch is about 2.5 centimeters or just estimating in centimeters to begin with.

              You could say 8 inches is 2/3 of a foot. 3ft to a meter. So 1 ft is .30 meters. Then it’s 2/3 of a foot, so .30×2/3=.2.

              Decimeters are the missing link for Americans to convert

              Yards to meters is 1

              Feet to meters is 3

              Inches to decimeters is 4

              Things like a 36 inch doorway, 3 feet, would be 9 decimeters or .9 meters

              Common measurements of inches:

              12 - 4 Decimeters

              18 - 4.5 Decimeters

              24 - 8 Decimeters

              30 - 9.5 Decimeters

              What they would use otherwise would be

              .4 meters

              .45 meters

              .8 meters

              .95 meters

              Saying the standard doorway is 9 Decimeters is way better than saying .9 meters.

              If you rounded to 1 meter. You’re adding 3 1/3 inches. Which is a 10% increase.

              A decimeter tape measure would be nice.

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            There are plenty of videos out there showing it stopping repeated 9mm bullets. But you’re right, the velocity will also come into play.

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              Yeah, I watched one from official Tesla youtube where the guy shot it with a bunch of stuff.

              It did stop the 9mm with the rounds they chose

              The buck shot pierced the door and cracked the window because it was rolled down.

              Buck shot is smaller caliber with higher velocity.

              I need to find a video of someone trying to get a 9mm bullet to go through it rather than basically a paid advertisement.

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                This one is recent and it does various calibers / velocities

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufoLITv26R4

                it did stop a subsonic and supersonic 9mm. The supersonic one was pretty close to going through though, I wouldn’t have been surprised if he did a dozen or so if one would have.

                The shots that ripped the metal instead of piercing through it were pretty wild.

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      Yeah, it’s just laminated glass, with borosilicate external layer

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    Reminder that a seatbelt cutter and glass breaker is a good investment, especially in cars like this.

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    But there’s emergency latches!

    They’re just hidden somewhere in the doors and you need the owner’s manual to figure out where they are…