ID: photo of Martin Luther King Jr. waving at the crowd during the March on Washington, on it is his quote: “He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it.”

  • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
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    3 hours ago

    You know, a lot of comments are bringing up voting like there was any chance of votes preventing this. A lifetime of gerrymandering, court stacking, propaganda, and general fuckery led to this, and the only question was when the religious right wing and oligarchs made their move

    Voting? That’s not shit.

    What matters is real change brought by real people.

    The people that didn’t vote? That wasn’t all protest non participation. Voter turnout has always been low because the average person just does not care.

    Which means they won’t care if the people that do care tear down the currently successful right wing revolution with a counter revolution. All you have to do is keep just enough comfort during transition, and nobody will lift a finger from that group. They will not give a flying fuck at all.

    Frankly, even if they did care, they’re also the segment least able to do a damn thing about any of it. They lack the will, the training, and the functional personal motivation to do anything but hunker down and wait, even if their comfort level does drop to the bottom.

    I can’t say that’s good or bad, but it is what it is.

    It’s up to the people that care to make changes. Right now, the right seems to care a fuck ton more than anyone else, so they’re pulling it off.

    • JabbaTheThott@lemmy.world
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      1 hour ago

      What do you mean votes couldn’t prevent this? You really think if Kamala had won by the electoral college that Trump would have won anyways??

  • IninewCrow@lemmy.ca
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    10 hours ago

    “Always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented”

    • Elie Wiesel, Nobel Peace Prize 1986

    Quoted from his acceptance speech -
    https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/1986/wiesel/acceptance-speech/

    Elie Wiesel was born in 1928 in the town of Sighet, now part of Romania. During World War II, he, with his family and other Jews from the area, were deported to the German concentration and extermination camps, where his parents and little sister perished. Wiesel and his two older sisters survived. Liberated from Buchenwald in 1945 by advancing Allied troops, he was taken to Paris where he studied at the Sorbonne and worked as a journalist.

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    7 hours ago

    I need to do more protests . I always seem to hear about them after the event, or they’re always in London or something

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    7 hours ago

    Does this include not voting because one is a single issue voter?

    Edit: lmao, yall will really say whatever to justify your decision to make things worse.

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      9 hours ago

      Absolutely. Non-voters and “protest” voters chose not to oppose a known fascist. Their refusal to strategically use their voice has led to increased suffering of minorities, LGBTQ+, and likely an end to any semblance of US democracy.

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        8 hours ago

        Yeah, well, they’ve done it, 95 million Americans didn’t vote. Now what?

        Are we gonna point the finger at them, lay the blame at their feet, and feel superior because WE VOTED, while the oligarchs and fascists loot our treasury and put our minority and LGBTQ+ brothers and sisters you seem to care so much about in camps? Or are we gonna go and fight the good fight like the people out in LA yesterday?

        • Lupus@feddit.org
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          7 hours ago

          Are we gonna point the finger at them, lay the blame at their feet,

          Absolutely.

          If those 95 million would’ve voted together for Mike the local crackhead, Mike would’ve won the popular vote with about 20 million votes to spare… I don’t know, seems stupid to me to just go on the Internet to complain and then not use one of the only tools you have in a democracy?

          I understand that going out voting is “accepting the system” but that is the only legal way to bring about change. If you don’t want to support the system that’s fine, work to dismantle it, take the fight to them. But just staying at home, doing nothing and then saying “I told you so” is just dumb.

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            5 hours ago

            I understand your point, but as you said:

            But just staying at home, doing nothing and then saying “I told you so” is just dumb.

            There are people WHO VOTED who are doing this, because it’s “not their responsibility” anymore.

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              4 hours ago

              There are people WHO VOTED who are doing this, because it’s “not their responsibility” anymore.

              There are a lot of people like this, they did the bare minimum and feel like that’s enough, I mean at least it’s something? Still far from enough, I agree with that.

              In these times I often think about the Berthold Brecht poem “Wer Zuhause bleibt”-“Whoever stays at home”.

              Wer zu Hause bleibt, wenn der Kampf beginnt Und lässt andere kämpfen für seine Sache Der muss sich vorsehen: denn Wer den Kampf nicht geteilt hat Der wird teilen die Niederlage. Nicht einmal den Kampf vermeidet Wer den Kampf vermeiden will: denn Es wird kämpfen für die Sache des Feinds Wer für seine eigene Sache nicht gekämpft hat.

              Translation :

              Whoever stays at home when the fight begins and lets others fight for his cause must beware: For whoever has not shared the fight will share the defeat. Not even avoiding the fight helps anymore, because he who has not fought (for his own cause) has fought for the cause of the enemy.

              Italics added by me

    • ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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      9 hours ago

      Voting (and in any other way participating) in an oppressive system (E: and for an oppressive party, either way) is literally the opposite of protesting it.

      Welcome to the point lmao

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        8 hours ago

        MLK: Moderates might be literally worse than the KKK

        Libs: Yeah but have you considered that you’re racist if you don’t vote for someone actively trying to make your life worse

        • ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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          2 hours ago

          Without fucking fail.

          And all with an overinflated and unearned sense of self righteousness to replace the deep sense of irony, and shame, they should be feeling.

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          3 hours ago

          There is nothing “strategic” about unconditionally voting for the Democratic party.

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            There is, to those whose strategy is to give themselves a pat on the back for doing the barest of bare minimum and successfully maintaining the status quo, rather than doing anything actually useful to oppose fascism (or the capitalism that will always decay in to it), or in the words of MLK himself those “more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice” - it gives them a dopamine hit and an ego boost so potent they seem able to ride on the smell of their own farts for 4 years at a time while doing fuck all else to change society for the better (for anyone but themselves, that is) because they’ve already “done their part”, and is seemingly all they need to convince themsleves they’re the brave hero-saviours of humanity, rather than the enablers of fascism they actually are.

            It’s precisely why the second cult exists - to provide an illusion of choice (E: and of impact), and make “the left” (I can’t even type that without cracking up, but part of the cult is being convinced they are “the left”) feel like they’re fighting the establishment, when in reality, they’re holding it up just as much as the other cult is, some might argue, even more, because they’ll turn on those actually opposing fascism long before they’ll dare be rude to fascists.

        • monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world
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          5 hours ago

          You don’t understand I can do more good by withholding my vote and standing outside with my witty sign (for a few hours).