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They call it the ‘100-80-100’ concept. This means employees will retain 100% of their salary, work 80% of the time, but contribute 100% of their output still.
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It’s only a test run done by a few companies, though. I’m a German and having a four day work week is still highly unlikely. Most people work 40h/week or more, from Monday to Friday.
I’m in the very lucky position to have a 30 hour work week. 3x8,1x6 and Fridays off. None of the people I know work like this, they either simply can’t afford it or they don’t have enough leverage against their employer to make it possible.
Also, the conservative parties in our political system are actively pushing against it, demanding even more work to compensate for our rapidly aging population and they will be back in office after February. What a time to be alive.
…and back to the regressive USA. Elon and the lunatics would relish the CCP driven 9-9-6 work week.
It’s getting rather tiresome to see every new report that the 4-day work week is a superior option delivered as if this is some groundbreaking new thing. Everybody knows it by now. The workers know it (not that they needed to be told), the C-suite knows it, the data backs it up, it’s all there except the implementation…
I would appreciate it if further articles about this or instead framed as “Why don’t we have a 4-day work week yet when it’s common knowledge that it’s the better option?” or “Our corporate overlords continue to demand a 5-day work week even though the superior way forward has been laid bare for all to see”.
Of course, since those same overlords are the ones that control the narrative, it won’t happen. But it’s nice to dream!
The Christian, capitalist and right winger parties in Germany will promptly ignore this and demand 6 day workweeks after the vote.
Just as God intended, as outlined by Abraham Lincoln and Jesus H. Christmas.
Abraham LincolnOtto von BismarckThat’s guy’s a jerk.
Source: Civ series
Please move EUgermans to their own fediverse servers, please! The constant political spam is annoying af. I keep blocking them but every day there are new ones posting.
(Context: https://fedia.io/m/theonion@midwest.social/t/1661463/-/comment/8936817 )
Oh no! .World having WORLDLY news! Oh, the humanity! How ever could they do such a thing?
By the way, not a sould is clicking that. If you need to link to context in a comment to a comment, you’re full of shit and not worth the time.
What is it about non-American posts that upsets you?
Nice reddit behavior. What’s next, going to go through my post history and downvote every single comment and post - to really stick it to me? 🤣
No, that’s boring. Someone did do that to me but I’m not sure what the point was. Here you’re just a jerk and it seemed worthwhile to point out what a hypocritical person you are.
All you can do is hope people realize they are not good and choose to improve themselves. If you choose not to do that for whatever reason, that’s your choice to be the worse man.
LOL, so Europeans posting some news is equivalent to US Americans spamming. Totally the same thing.
Given the ratio of users between the countries, I think the post ratio is about right. So yep, I agree, it’s the same thing, which makes you a hypocrite.
Tbh I’m surprised you havent blocked me by now, your post indicated you were into that.
I suppose had this instance (hosted at lemmy.world) didn’t want worldwide posts, they would’ve considered a different TLD.
I don’t know what that sentence is saying. It doesn’t seem relevant?
I’ll attempt to translate.
I suppose that if lemmy.world didn’t want worldwide news (eg. post about Germany), then perhaps they should have chosen a different name.
They are trying to tell you that “EUgerman spam” you are complaining about is in fact not spam, but rather it is a normal part of a world-wide discussion.
Ah, so they just didn’t read the context. Thank you for the translation.
Their username checks out
I’m based in the US but VPN into Switzerland for better online privacy (as well as a mix of other techniques).
The host of my instance was gracious enough to allow me to use it. I’m not physically in the EU, but that doesn’t mean I need to go around with a US-centric view on everything. Maybe realize there are other countries in the world, and that ours (the US) is by no means “tHe bEST.”
- I was only referring to the
undefinedpart. 2) I’m not from or in the US, so that isn’t “our” country. 👍👍 You joining a Swiss instance should surely make you aware that people from elsewhere than the US can make comments on Lemmy. 😁
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Literally not a single soul on all of lemmy has ever said the US is the best. You might be thinking of a different social media with “truth” in the name.
It’s a bit misleading to phrase it as they did. Germany didn’t trial this. A few companies in Germany did. How many? Well fuck me if I know because the author does their best to keep any absolute numbers out of the article. I’m all for reducing work time since our productivity has easily risen enough to allow for that (once we eat the rich) but don’t try to sugarcoat it.
all i can remember is vw and/or porsche trialing this a while back
Journalists (as a whole) are some of the worst when it comes to referencing. “A report from organisation found…” yes, okay, what’s it called, when was I released, better yet LINK THE DAMN REPORT.
Journalists, why you so bad at this?
Yes, I feel like this happens when these articles pop up from time to time. Like, it’s a good thing a few companies are trying it out successfully, you don’t have to falsely make it sound like the whole country switched
Few enough that I can’t find anything about it apart from some forum. And I’m right next door. Not even my german friends an hour away mentioned it.
But then how are they going to be kept perpetually tired and unhappy?
That’s the neat part, you don’t! Wait a second…that’s not right…
Reports from the trial showed that the frequency and duration of meetings was reduced by 60%, which makes sense to anyone who works in an office – many meetings could have been a simple email.
You don’t say.
I had to sit through multi-day workshops that could have been a one-liner.
I feel so many times that instead of having a meeting I could just write a email with a link to the documentation I wrote for the purpose of everyone in the project following it. People could read it when they have time and ask questions via email and I would answer them asynchronously and everyone would be up to speed.
In reality when I do that the email gets ignored by 95℅ of the people who should know about it and that leads to many problems because we can’t align on how to run the project. And I get it I also get so many email and it’s not always clear if they are important for me or not and I have so many things to do so I’m happy to ignore the not so important things.
A meeting, as bad as it is, forces you to take one hour out of your schedule and spent it in this specific topic. On top of it when we go through the documentation together it’s easy to understand what parts of it are more important and which less, etc.
And because there are many people in my situation in the project each of them needs to create a meeting just to be able to cut through the loud voices in the email and deliver their message so that I end up with more than 50℅ of my day in meetings.
We got rid of our stand-ups in favor of a morning slack check-in in the group channel.
We even have a little bot that lets you input them at any time before the scheduled deadline and reports them all at once so you don’t have to put it in in the morning (many people prefer reporting on their day at the end of the day).
This combined with a robust pull request system means that a lot of work can get done async.
We have occasional meetings but they’re pointed and specific between only the people that need to talk so nobody’s time feels wasted.
It took like 2+ years to develop this culture but it’s worth it.
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good to hear!
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According to some studies they should call it 100-80-120 becuase they show people are actually more productive with 4 day work weeks but i guess well see.
Unless the free day is on a Friday apparently, maybe?
There’s a lot missing in the article and nothing seems to be sourced.
No work sectors, no numbers and barely a decent explanation. I’m all for the four day work week, but this article seems unnecessarily optimistic?
Only 100% of their output?
Same thing but faster!
In France they talked about the week in four days, instead of a four days week. Bunch of wankers…
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“I’m not a racist. Only Germans are racists. It’s in their blood. Fact. Facts don’t care about your feelings. Wanna know what else is in their blood? Hemoglobin. Fact. Facts don’t care about your feelings. Prove me wrong. You can’t. Checkmate atheist.”
a more civilized people
You don’t fight racism with more racism, dude. It’s like fighting flooding by opening the fire hydrants.
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I’ll remove this now that the putinazi’s comments have been removed and their jimmies rustled.
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How’s the weather in St. Petersburg? Or are you in Moscow, Тролль? Do you have heat at Bolshoy Kislovsky Pereulok? Or are you at Prospekt Novoyasenevskii, Building 23?
If you’re in Canada, I hope they’re at least paying you and you’re not doing their work for free.
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Germany is not the only country trying 4 day work weeks. Other countries trying and normalizing a 4 day work week include Belgium, Iceland, and France.
Belgium has legalized the 10H/D - 4D/W system, not the 32 hours a week system.
I’d honestly still prefer 10 hours a day system over no change at all. Although my view is biased and flawed as i work trades and my hours are very inconsistent. 55-60 hours a week is common and honestly an even 40 hours would feel like a break to me. I’ve cosidered if i could get my employer on board with 10 hours 3-4 days a week in the future after ive bought and paid for a house.
Yeah, we must be careful as to not muddle the waters here. Employees want 32 hour weeks while bosses are trying to give them 40 hour weeks, shoehorned into four days, instead, to “improve efficiency.” These two are not the same.
Which is very dumb, since the human brain can’t be efficient for long periods of time, let alone 10 hours straight.
Estonia and many other countries have had companies in it try out 4 day work weeks.
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