We can call it HATE, yeah. There’s not a day when this OS is not my way.

Basic, plain Windows 10 Professional installation, nothing fancy. If it was not the gamers, it would have died long time ago.

ventilating…

  • Zerush@lemmy.ml
    14·
    2 years ago

    If you have to use Windows out of necessity, you can at least use this tool (FOSS GPL 3.0) that removes bad habits from Windows safely and easily, throwing out all this garbage and telemetry that makes it so hateful.

    • Full multilingual support (18 languages available)
    • Speed up your system and network performance
    • Disable unnecessary Windows services
    • Disable Windows telemetry, Cortana and many more
    • Disable Office telemetry (works only with Office 2016)
    • Disable Windows 10 automatic updates
    • Download useful apps quickly at once
    • Uninstall UWP apps
    • Clean your system drive and major browsers’ profile data
    • Fix common registry issues
    • Ping IPs and assess your latency
    • Search IPs on SHODAN.io
    • Rapidly change DNS server (from a pre-made list)
    • Flush DNS cache
    • Remove unwanted programs running at startup
    • Edit your HOSTS file
    • Find file lock handles and kill associated processes
    • Network speed monitoring
    • Hardware inspection tool
    • Add items in desktop on right-click menu
    • Define custom commands for run dialog
    • Silent run support using a configuration file
    • charlie_root@lemmy.mlOP
      3·
      2 years ago

      Many thanks for your suggestion - and time. I know most of these tips but that’s not the problem. it’s deeply rooted to windows. :)

      I was just ventilating.

      • Zerush@lemmy.ml
        31·
        2 years ago

        Unfortunately Windows is a must with few real alternatives (LinuxFX(???)) for many people for various reasons. For this reason, the only possibility for them, is to try to leave Windows in its purely necessary functions, removing all this spyware and garbage that it carries, which luckily is possible with apps like I mentioned, which is the best and most complete.

        The computing world is always a search for compromises. Although in this case everyone can use Linux in dual boot, this way practically all needs are covered.

        • Helix 🧬@feddit.de
          2·
          2 years ago

          Windows is a must with few real alternatives (LinuxFX

          While LinuxFX is not an alternative to Windows for companies which use it, it’s also not a good OS overall. You’re usually much better off with a proper Linux distribution. See also: Linux is not Windows (been a while since I linked that!)

          The computing world is always a search for compromises.

          This is certainly correct.

          • Zerush@lemmy.ml
            2·
            2 years ago

            Agree, I put LinuxFX with question marks, for the reason that it can use some Windows apps, which may allow it to be used in certain cases. But this is basically not too different from trying it on Linux with Wine, apart from the fact that LinuxFX uses some other Windows layers as well. It’s still a bad Chinese Brazilian imitation. ReactOS is another one that tries to offer a ‘Windows’, although also quite limited for serious use, but at least not putting out some distro disguised as the first. Like I said, if you hate Windows, but need to use it, you only have one serious option, which is to use it alongside Linux on dual boot.

          • Zerush@lemmy.ml
            2·
            2 years ago

            This is why I mentioned it with the question marks. Regarding Windows, it is a fact that many professional applications in various fields are for Windows and do not have feasible alternatives. Games are not the main problem, where there are more and more that also have versions for Linux.

            Linux has some advantages over Windows, without a doubt, but the problem is that there are many different distros and not all of them are fully compatible with each other, and for this reason in certain professions that require certain software, the only possibility is to use Windows, so least for now.

            It is the result when an OS dominates almost 90% of the market and the rest is shared between iOS and 50 different Linux distros, certain software companies often do not bother to spend the money to develop specific software, for so many different OS, with which implies, leaving it in the hands of communities and individuals to dedicate themselves to this, which on the other hand naturally do not have it easy to develop software for official uses, town halls, health, education, banks, etc. that for this reason they are not going to use Linux, exceptions aside, in most cases in the field of soft for servers.

            Adding also that Windows has with distance the biggest catalogue of FOSS of all OS, apart from the comercial soft. MS even allows itself the luxury of offering distros, even Kali, in the MS Store itself, they know their position very well, for this they tolerate even this fake Windows like LinuxFX, even though it even uses the Windows logo and MS services, or ReactOS, because MS knows very well the limitations they have and they cannot be a competition to be taken seriously, if not, they would have faced lawsuits for crimes against copyright a long time ago.

              • Zerush@lemmy.ml
                2·
                2 years ago

                As I said before, everybody can have 2 or more Os in it’s PC in dual or multi boot. I have a great preference for FOSS, whenever possible, but first of all I care more about the service or the software that best serves my purposes and uses that I give it and that it has sufficient quality. If it’s FOSS, better, but it’s not always like that.

                I’m not a programmer and whether or not I can see the source code isn’t necessarily a priority, if I know the product is reliable, which isn’t always the case at FOSS either. It amuses me when I see clear statements like, ‘if it’s not FOSS, it’s crap’, something that some I know have already been unpleasantly surprised that it isn’t what they thought, as many times with fixed ideas in other areas. I am old and with computers since punched cards were used and I have seen practically everything, in the past with some successes with the PCs I had, which made me learn the hard way. Now I can say that I have a reliable PC, in the configuration and with the software that adapts to the millimeter to my needs, without failing to keep up with new developments. Naturally everyone has their own priorities and for this reason one can never make claims that this or that is better than others, simply if it works for you without bad surprises and without having to make life unnecessarily more complicated…

              • krolden@lemmy.ml
                12·
                2 years ago

                Wrong. There is only 1 major ecosystem in Linux world, which is APT/DEB. Companies cater first to Ubuntu/Debian, then RedHat/SUSE, then Fedora and rest. And Flatpaks and Snaps have solved the dependency problem, and work well with every big distribution,

                where is your reasoning behind this? Redhat is used much more widely in the commercial space over ubuntu. Yes ubuntu pushes security patches and other updates rather quicky but to say the whole of linux in the business world is dominated by debian/ubuntu is simply untrue.

                Also snap is fucking awful and you’re insane for suggesting it’s a good piece of software. It goes against FOSS principles and you saying otherwise just proves your ignorance. Canonical pushing snap is mostly due to their effort to shift package maintenance away from the distros and onto the developers. It does very little to improve security, which is the whole point of running containerized applications. Not to mention it pretty much locks you into canonical’s ‘snap store’. One of the best things about linux is shared libraries, and snap just shits all over that in favor of shipping libraries with the application, which is exactly how windows works.

          • krolden@lemmy.ml
            21·
            2 years ago

            Have you ever tried to get a business to switch to Linux? Its possible but you would have to convince them to stop using ms office (no,libreoffice isn’t good enough), adobe suite, and a shit ton of other business related applications that could run on Linux but youll be on call 24/7 dealing with small issues and youll eventually realize you made a huge mistake unless they’re paying you twice your rate.

            I hate Microsoft more than most but when it comes to stuff like this, Linux just isn’t going to cut it for people who don’t actually like using computers and just do it because its an essential part of their revenue stream. Linux would just cut into that revune and reduce their productivity unless they were 100% committed to using it, for whatever reason.

              • krolden@lemmy.ml
                12·
                2 years ago

                So no, you’ve never migrated a business to Linux?

                I’m not talking about large companies with an actual IT dept, I’m talking about small businesses that can’t afford to keep a staff of more than one or two IT guys who are also handling stuff like the network, website, DNS, and sometimes even social media. Many of these businesses use services that WILL NOT run on linux (think POS systems and other specialized stuff), whether it is because they dont want to worry about supporting it or just don’t care.

                Not to mention using rdp to run office and other stuff pretty much defeats the purpose of moving to Linux since youll now have to be supporting a bunch of Linux desktops AND the windows systems you’re running these applications on. All the while trying to get them to work well together. No thanks.

                • Zerush@lemmy.ml
                  1·
                  2 years ago

                  Companies can use mostly Linux without problems, because can use the soft they want, not so official sites, like municipal or state administrations, banks, study centers, etc. they have to use what the central offers in the different branches and organizations.

  • Keg1776@beehaw.org
    12·
    2 years ago

    Nowadays, you can actually enjoy many titles on Linux without any issues thanks to Valve. If you do not hate Linux distributions, consider checking if the games you play are supported well on Linux, Wine if not native linux or the best option, Steam Proton(basically Wine but optimized for games with many titles running without any issues or any extra manual configuration/patching).
    You can also use a Windows VM on Linux like SomeOrdinaryGamers’ Mutahar does on his Arch/Manjaro install.

    • charlie_root@lemmy.mlOP
      18·
      2 years ago

      I am not a gamer and I don’t Windows for gaming. It’s a laptop I use for a specific customer.

      I am quite against gaming in Linux actually. Not a good news.

        • foxglove@lemmy.ml
          10·
          2 years ago

          I don’t think there could possibly be a logical reason to be against gaming on an specific OS other that they are just against gaming personally.

          • charlie_root@lemmy.mlOP
            311·
            2 years ago

            I don’t want to prevent people to game on Linux, I just don’t see this “community” as something good for a community (FOSS) based on effort, sharing, helping.

            Gamers are illiterate about computer (beside RGB LEDs timing), and the worse behavior online (Gamergate someone?)

            • Arcaneslime@lemmy.ml
              7·
              2 years ago

              Well tbh that just describes almost every group of people, most people don’t know fuck all about anything and want things to “just work.” That is why Apple products are so popular (in addition of course to their advertising team successfully making iPods and iPhones a “status symbol.”)

              Tbh I think as these things go on they make people less tech proficient, most kids these days only know how to stream and torrenting things is “too hard” for them.

              I for one happen to like gaming on Linux, because it means I don’t have to use windows just because I want to play morrowind, I can just load up openmw and start casting spells. Furthermore just because gaming is possible on linux now does not mean anyone will necessarily switch to it without another reason to if they are technoligically challenged, many see linux as too hard anyway, or just want the plug and wait, er…I mean plug and “play,” that windows supposedly gives them. FurtherFurthermore, with the ability to customize Linux to your hearts content and a multitude of good distros from which to choose, the caliber of users should minimally effect you, if at all.

              • Zerush@lemmy.ml
                4·
                2 years ago

                There are also very good games for Linux, not all of these seems pixeled 1990 sidescrollers, for Exmpl. this one, OpenSource and multiplatform, that has nothing to envy to commercial games.

              • Helix 🧬@feddit.de
                2·
                2 years ago

                tbh that just describes almost every group of people, most people don’t know fuck all about anything and want things to “just work.”

                Exactly, and even those lowly (/s) people should be able to enjoy GNU/Linux.

                • krolden@lemmy.ml
                  3·
                  2 years ago

                  Gamers are illiterate about computer (beside RGB LEDs timing), and the worse behavior online (Gamergate someone?)

                  calling people illiterate because they play video games.

            • Helix 🧬@feddit.de
              3·
              2 years ago

              Your comment reeks of prejudice and ignorance. #notallgamers

              Gamers are illiterate about computer (beside RGB LEDs timing)

              I literally studied computer engineering and still play computer games. I think at least 70% of my classmates back in uni did.

              and the worse behavior online (Gamergate someone?)

              Every decent person and gamer dislikes the Gamergate people. I specifically know several leftist hardcore gamers who would dismember a Gamergate troll if they ever laid eyes on one.

              • charlie_root@lemmy.mlOP
                11·
                2 years ago

                We are on lemmy, so it’s obvious that most of you know computers. I don’t think you game 4h+ a day.

                Anyway

  • personwithakeyboard@lemmy.ml
    6·
    2 years ago

    All corporate software is crap and it’s gonna get worse and worse as the need to hold subscribers and users increases. It’s already happening with facebook and other social media making segregates spaces online and it’s only gonna get worse if people start using VR and other shit.

    It’s gonna lead to people being completely disconnected from each other unless they use the same service or are part of the same social media. I do not have a good prospect for us if things don’t change drastically when it comes to tech and our use of tech.

    • Zerush@lemmy.ml
      2·
      2 years ago

      I this I agree, corporate software/service is the right term to difference good from bad soft or service, not if it is FOSS or not, because big compañies also distribute FOSS. In my opinion a soft of a small team or particular dev is very often more thrustworth, even when it’s proprietary, than a FOSS product from Google, M$, Fakebook or Amazon… In the past FOSS was still a certain guarantee, but since these big companies and even goverments took hold of this world with own catalogues and stores (GitHub, GitLab, Google code, etc.), it is not so much anymore.

  • krolden@lemmy.ml
    6·
    2 years ago

    I highly suggest you try windows 10 ltsc if you have to use windows. It doesn’t come with any advertising built in but they dont sell it to normal users so youll have to pirate it (oh no).

    • onlooker@lemmy.ml
      6·
      2 years ago

      For the love of god, listen to this person. Windwos 10 Professional is the second worst version of 10 on the market (first being Home). If you don’t need Microsoft Store, Cortana and other cruft, get Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC. If you do need the Microsoft Store, then you should still avoid 10 Pro and get 10 Enterprise instead.

      Because what’s so professional about an ad-riddled start menu?

      • charlie_root@lemmy.mlOP
        2·
        2 years ago

        I didn’t know professional was not like the name says it. I’m aware of something called marketing :) But I did think it was non-consumer/casual version of windows, as it’s what is mostly used in enterprise so far (eg: in workplaces)

        Good to know about LTSC, is it like the Windows NT Workstation back in the day?

        You picked my curiosity, I might give a try.

        EDIT: https://www.microsoft.com/Licensing/servicecenter/default.aspx ho my god, this website from 98.

        • onlooker@lemmy.ml
          2·
          2 years ago

          I’ve never used Windows NT Workstation, so I really couldn’t say. All I know is LTSC comes with barely anything pre-installed, which is great. Check it out for yourself in Virtualbox. You can easily find the ISO for the LTSC version of Windows 10 on, ahem, “the open seas”. I’ve had good experience with the group called {gen2}. Yes, with the curly braces.

          • charlie_root@lemmy.mlOP
            1·
            2 years ago

            I won’t use a cracked version (risky) and licensing is a hell of a ride apparently. I had 2h in front of me and I took the time , in parallel of other tasks, to clean up, reconfigure and backup this windows 10 instance.

            Will see next week. Windows is quite punctual when it needs to mess up with you. ^_-

              • charlie_root@lemmy.mlOP
                1·
                2 years ago

                Is it opensource in the sense of distributed with sources or “opensource” in the sense of binaries hosted on Github like most stuff related to debloat windows? :) Yes, Windows users still don’t know what opensource means and blindly suggest repo.

                It’s not your case here, I use this opportunity to remind people.

                So, thank you, I will dig in.

  • quasimagia@feddit.it
    6·
    2 years ago

    At my job we used linux (I have an old pc and I’m still using it) but now the company forced us to use windows.

    Result?

    Everyone uses wsl2.

    • charlie_root@lemmy.mlOP
      5·
      2 years ago

      The problem is the host : windows :) Also transparent proxies are quite annoying with WSL.

      But yeah, this is what I use too.

  • electrodynamica@mander.xyz
    4·
    2 years ago

    A business that can’t work without windows is like a business that can’t work without poverty wages. It deserves to fail and be replaced by someone who actually knows what they’re doing.