• TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
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      9 hours ago

      Fun fact: the US is one of the only countries in the world that does not recognise food as a human right

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      The difference is that “food” isn’t something that falls out of the sky or simply exists in its final form in nature. It is farmed, processed, and packaged for market.

      Water, by itself, is natural and in its final form (sans boiling away impurities). It also falls from the sky. The problem comes up that companies like Nestle have “water rights” that some argue they shouldn’t have that prohibit use of publicly available water for anybody but Nestle.

      Personally, I don’t see a problem with a company profiting off of the packaging, marketing, and distribution of bottled water. The problem I have is that companies should not be allowed to take as much water as they want, especially if it hurts public interest. I also have issue with states restricting a persons ability to capture and use rain water.

      Kind of hypocritical that I cannot capture rain water and sell it, but Nestle can siphon of millions of gallons of water from a public water source and everyone is expected to be okay with it.

      • Dragon "Rider"(drag)@lemmy.nz
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        The difference is that “food” isn’t something that falls out of the sky or simply exists in its final form in nature.

        Isaac Newton disagrees.

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          Not as part of a normal life. Or at least, I don’t see many people carrying baskets of freshly picked apples around.

          Your point is true, though, even if a bit impractical for most.

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        Rainwater capture isn’t about you and I and some 50-gallon drums, your article even talks about reasonable use. The idea is to stop assholes from changing/diverting waterways.

        There was an ass somewhere out West that was prosecuted, acting like he was a simple man getting the government shaft. He was collecting so much he dried up a creek that downstream farmers depended on.

        Funny enough, I looked up Florida and apparently we not only encourage rainwater collection, some municipalities offer incentives! Weird. Now if it would only rain…

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      9 hours ago

      Guess what!

      Also, as an aside, thank you for using an exclamation point. As a licensed and registered pedant, it always bugs me to see a question mark on a statement/command. “Guess what?” is a common offender.

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    That is a real quote and absolutely fucking atrocious.

    On the one hand, extremists think one of two things necessary for life should be a right.

    On the other, I want to exploit those needs for personal gain.

    …Times like these I wish I wasn’t an atheist so I could find solace in the idea that they’d burn in hell. Instead they’ll live a life of luxury while people die.

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      All these sociopaths just want personal gain, and don’t realize that it makes us all lose. And when we all lose (at this stage of the game) we ALL lose!

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      The thing is, food should absolutely be a right, but also, food requires work to produce, water literally falls from the sky, comes out of a source by itself, and flows in a river. It’s the most basic and natural of natural resources.

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        Food literally grows on its own. It can take work to produce but it literally just does that.

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        And these fucks consider water a foodstuff… You don’t do anything to water it just is.

        Pepsi is a foodstuff, you make it. I don’t claim a right to have Pepsi.

        A hotdog is a foodstuff, you make it. I don’t claim a right to have a hotdog.

        Water is water… We literally need it to survive, even sooner than we need food. It’s something like 7 days without water and you die, but at least 30 without food…

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    I don’t think having a right to something removes that it might also have a market value, it just puts constraints on that market value and the ability to access it. Often but not always mediated by welfare payments, pensions, or government coupon rates.

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      Indeed.

      Food for the vast majority of the world is a human right, but it has market value.

      Shelter likewise is also a human right, but that also obviously holds market value.