• MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip
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    This is a double-whammy PR nightmare.

    Are we going to do what happened with Jack in the Box in the naughts and start associating E Coli with McDonalds? I remember hearing that FUD so much back then and now that the shoe is on the other foot, I wonder what will happen. 🤔 Not to engage in the fast food wars or anything, but also fuck McDonalds for helping this fat ass at all.

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      As much as I enjoy shitting on McDonald’s, I don’t think McDonald’s corporate had anything to do with this. I’m pretty sure this was a franchise.

      That being said, McDonald’s may need to revisit some of the restrictions in their franchise agreements with regard to direct participation in political campaigns. A candidate visiting a location is one thing, but this restaurant directly arranged and participated in this nonsense.

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    There was a term I really liked for this kind of things: “Vacationing in poverty” I think, where people with wealth ‘adventure’ being homeless or something but don’t even remotely appreciate that the people they’re pretending to be don’t have an ‘off’ switch or an easy out of their situations.

    I find the whole premise despicable.

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      Especially since they keep doing it to prove that “Oh anyone can be a millionaire, ya just gotta not be lazy.”, and despite each of them failing when they fail to prove this, they still proceed to learn nothing form this.

      If only I could show the world what rich people really think of the common man, but if thousands of films like “Joker” and “V For Vendetta” where that’s the sole point didn’t do it, then what the fuck else will?

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      Kinda like that undercover boss show where they tried to show how great these CEOs are by throwing some money at specific employees that are struggling, ignoring that better leadership and compensation that lines up better with the value being created would improve things for all of the other struggling employees that weren’t lucky enough to be assigned to boss babysitting duty (assuming the whole thing wasn’t staged entirely).

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        It probably wasn’t staged sadly. Those privileged billionaires saw the struggling employees as the exception, not the rule.

        I know it wasn’t because there was an episode where an employee disillusioned with life and struggling with drug addiction was fired “As a favor to him”, and it was framed as being super wholesome, even though now that guy without any financial support and no way to get help will likely relapse harder than he ever has…

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        I would understand a boss going undercover to investigate where things are least efficient and whether their subordinates are lying about safety violations at a lower cost than getting an actual investigation.

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          The word “subordinates” disgusts me.
          Luckily I’ve never had to work with someone who felt they were above the other members of their team.

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            Subordinate has a lot of implications, and typically I only hear it used to talk about people working for the bad guy…

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    Back in 2016, I didn’t understand how an extremely wealthy heir to a billion-dollar fortune (and regardless of all his business failures) could present himself as the candidate of the little people. Today, after Trump was president and - of course - only made policy changes for the rich, I understand it even less. What is this photo-op all about? Are there seriously still people who don’t understand that Trump has never represented the middle class - or even the working class? You can’t be serious, dear US citizens.

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      Yes. Half the country thinks Trump is for the little guy and Harris is an elitist asshole.

      Trump was born rich. Harris grew up middle class and a member of two minority groups. The problem is the democrats are shit at messaging. It’s why Walz calling republicans weird took off. Democrats don’t usually come up with sound bites like that.

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        I sincerely don’t understand how this is even possible. A lot of these people are old, do they not remember the 90’s? Trump being “Smug Rich Asshole: The Character” was his whole brand, and people loved him for it because we were still drinking that “Capitalism good” kool-aid left over from the cold war.

        How is this man with a literal solid gold toilet “The Voice of the People”

        This whole nonsense makes me perfectly understand how “War of the Worlds” was mistaken for a legitimate news broadcast.

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      As someone who went down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole in the 00s but realized Alex Jones was full of shit by 2010, I was incredibly baffled to see the movement align behind someone who could be an avatar of everything it feared.

      That said, the racism and bigotry in that movement had gone right over my head and I generally dismissed the more out there shit like lizard people or aliens being involved because it sounded stupid. I believed (and still do) that that shit is part of a real strategy to use ridiculous claims to generate noise that makes real things like MK ultra more likely to be dismissed along with them.

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        Went through the same thing, admittedly what got me out of it was realizing how often it came back to “And that’s why Hitler did nothing wrong!”

        Which made me go “That whole “genocide is good actually” thing… doesn’t really align with all this talk of how peace and love are being threatened by the forces of darkness…”

        I figured it was a few bad eggs who just somehow got the wrong message, but it kept happening

        All the people telling me I was on the George Soros payroll was kinda the very last straw, because how could I be the bad guy in this “conspiracy” and being so richly rewarded for it if I was struggling this much? And who the fuck was George Soros? I still to this day barely know who the fuck that even is.

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      It’s super frustrating but as an example - my parents are deeply conservative and supportive of Trump, and also on the lower end of “wealth” and semi-retired. It is 100% misinformation. My Dad quotes the Fox news rhetoric like it’s facts, and regardless of me disproving most of the BS, he is completely brain washed. At this point Trump could run a live execution of his political opponents and the Trumpets would more or less shrug.

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      Before 2016 he was a celebrity people liked him as a no bullshit business owner like the middle class small business owners. As he was exposed to more media and has proven he was more of an idiot it personified him as someone like them. A moron who does what they want with 0 reflection or cares about other people.

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        I’m baffled as to how anyone other than asshole bosses saw him as anything other than another asshole boss. The Apprentice gave me a strong negative opinion of him, similarly to how Shark Tank gave me a strong negative opinion of Kevin O’Leary.

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    Wow, someone has actually died as a result of this McDiddles E. Coli outbreak? Imagine living your whole ass life, doing regular shit, being a regular ass person, and then dying to a mcdouble. WTF. Just another reason I rarely let other people cook my food.

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    Probably comes from the beef itself since it’s an outbreak on a wide scale.

    McDonald’s workers where I live don’t wear gloves yet there’s no outbreak. Wearing gloves isn’t more sanitary (it increases the odds that people won’t clean their hands often enough), you still touch the gloves to put them on, if your hands are dirty the gloves are contaminated, if someone touches the gloves box with dirty hands then the surface is contaminated and cross contamination can happen every time someone takes a pair of gloves.

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      THANK YOU.

      It’s not gross because he’s not wearing gloves, it’s gross because he probably never washes his hands after digging in his ass all day.

      Get your reasons this man is disgusting straight people!

      I wrote a similar comment about this exact same situation on another post but from a more healthcare oriented perspective. Specifically that unless you have open cuts / sores on your hands as a healthcare worker, clean but nonsterile gloves do not protect the patient! They are an OSHA requirement in place to protect the worker from exposure to bodily fluids and caustic cleaning chemicals. And for chemo you glove twice.

      Sterile gloves, which are used to protect a patient from infection and are used for surgeries and specific types of bedside procedures like urine catheterization, are packed in sealed packages in single pairs and must be applied in a highly specific way by a trained individual, the minimum license usually being an LPN and more often an RN.

      Unless that beef patty is acidic enough to burn your hands while preparing it (and if it is I shudder to think what it would do to a stomach) gloves out of a 100-count box ain’t protecting anybody from anything and at their worst are bamboozling people out of washing their damn hands.

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        Plus, consider how much plastic waste that comes to. I’ve seen people describe them changing gloves several times an hour to comply with food safety laws. We don’t have outbreaks of this shit because people wash their hands and don’t rely on gloves.

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      Stupid fearmongering drivel. Yes, you can contaminate gloves. That doesn’t make them worse than leaky skin, you actual moron.

      Do you want your surgeons to wear gloves? If you say, “yes”, then you are exposing your utterly moronic double standard. If you say, “no”, then you truly do not understand actual germ theory and why gloves DO help.

      Ignorance is no excuse. You are trying to sound confidant while WRONG. Do better, fool.

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        Food service workers do not scrub down like OR personnel. They really need to wash their hands routinely and wear hairnets and not touch their privates. The whole thing of Subway employees donning a new pair of gloves for each sandwich is just theatre. Go into any professional kitchen away from public view and you will not see the cooks and chefs wearing gloves.

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        Surgeons wear sterilized gloves. Do you think those 100 gloves boxes are sterile?

        How come food poisoning isn’t an issue where I live if cooks don’t wear gloves even though it’s the governmental norm? And I mean, in restaurants, in hospitals, in long term care buildings… No issues, no gloves… Weird right?

        Also, did you know that healthcare workers mostly don’t wear gloves unless there’s a risk THEY will be exposed to YOUR fluids? Same reason over here we still wear gloves in professional kitchens when there’s a risk that our fluids will come in contact with the food, i.e. if we cut ourselves.