• sudo_shinespark@lemmy.worldEnglish
    121·
    4 months ago

    Didn’t he explain one time that the key to looking really shredded for a movie is to get SUPER dehydrated right as filming begins? Think it was because then it makes your abs and other chest muscles stick out really prominently and achieves the Hollywood expectation for how strong guy should look

    • hotspur@lemmy.mlEnglish
      99·
      4 months ago

      Ugh so annoying. So like both in movies and body building, what they’re selling is actually not a healthy or strong physique—but someone who could be on the verge of organ failure.

      I like the idea of fitness, and being in functionally good shape, so this sort of exaggeration is something I find uniquely distasteful—portraying a a goal state that is actually just a grift/scam, and that is dangerous to partake in.

      • CleoTheWizard@lemmy.worldEnglish
        31·
        3 months ago

        Don’t some European countries have regulations against this kind of thing now? Like being forced to mark images as photoshopped and requiring that models have a certain BMI?

        • PelicanenEnglish
          2·
          3 months ago

          As far as I remember, it is Norway that has a law requiring social media influencers to label their pictures if they have been altered and it’s France that requires models to stay over a certain BMI. I think both laws are good, but the latter one should maybe be adjusted to not strictly look at BMI as it would, for example, impact tall models differently than short ones.

          • hotspur@lemmy.mlEnglish
            1·
            3 months ago

            Yeah I like the spirit, but BMI is such a stupid and flawed measure. It’s ok as like a population level heuristic to say things are trending one way or another, but like athletes that have lots of muscle and are tall look the same as morbidly obese people to BMI, which is obviously silly.

            • CleoTheWizard@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              3 months ago

              I feel like we have ways to use body fat measurements and should just use that instead. I feel like modeling should only be able to use people that represent somewhat realistic body goals though, so I’m actually fine with not allowing the 0.25% most fit people out there to model. If it’s not realistically attainable by the average working person, you shouldn’t be on a billboard.

    • atoro@lemmy.mlEnglish
      65·
      4 months ago

      Henry Cavill had a similar experience as Geralt. He said he could smell water nearby after a while

    • zcd@lemmy.caEnglish
      36·
      4 months ago

      Yeah they will typically time the cutting/dehydration to film all the “muscle shots” at the same time. The actors are miserable during this time period, and will and will quickly hydrate/switch to maintenance eating after this

      • psmgx@lemmy.worldEnglish
        44·
        4 months ago

        Yeah standard weight cutting, and then aggressive pre-show preparation. Ironically, they’re probably at their weakest during competition / shows, due to the dehydration and starvation beforehand.

        The not-shredded wolverine could lift harder and run longer than his tougher looking counterpart.

    • neidu2@feddit.nlMEnglish
      30·
      4 months ago

      I think I heard something similar, so probably.

      On that note, I’m well hydrated. REALLY well hydrated…

    • hOrni@lemmy.worldEnglish
      13·
      4 months ago

      Yeah. There is a reason, why we only see one scene of a shirtless hero per movie.

    • Vittelius@feddit.orgEnglish
      6·
      3 months ago

      Yes, he explained this in the BTS for “Les Miserables”

      A MUSICAL MOVIE WHERE THE CAST HAD TO SING LIVE ON SET. (I had to write that in caps to drive home the point and retraumatise all the theater kids in the audience)

  • Hegar@fedia.io
    1102·
    4 months ago

    It’s perfectly normal for humans to become less matte as they age. Please stop this unnecessary reflectivity shaming.

  • NigelFrobisher@aussie.zoneEnglish
    581·
    4 months ago

    Funny thing is that the comic character never even had this ott physique. He’s this hairy, barrel-chested little brawler.

    Old picture looks like something you could plausibly achieve by going to the gym every day.

    • Cypher@lemmy.worldEnglish
      401·
      4 months ago

      Three times a week with a reasonable diet would get most people the first look. And you could actually maintain it.

      The second is impossible to maintain for more than short stints.

  • Ellia Plissken@lemm.eeEnglish
    32·
    3 months ago

    after reading about how he gets this look, I don’t enjoy it. same with The Witcher; yes, it looks attractive, but all I can think about is Henry Cavill talking about how when you’re that dehydrated you can smell water from a distance

    • zalgotext@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      15·
      3 months ago

      Yeah the whole “dehydrate the fuck out of yourself to make your muscles pop a bit” thing is so irresponsible. Jackman pulled the same thing for the opening prisoner scene in the Les Miserables movie, which was doubly irresponsible because he had to sing, and being dehydrated makes it really difficult to sing well, and potentially puts you at risk to damage your voice. I think I’ve seen interviews where they spent like several hours on that scene because his voice kept breaking. So not only was it super bad for Jackman, it also wasted the rest of the cast and crew’s time.

      • boovard@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7·
        3 months ago

        I don’t think that it was him who decided that it was necessary for the scene, though he might not have been against it. Production would not agree to loose money on multiple takes if they did not want the Jackman abs.

        Edit: I agree that it’s a completely irresponsible practice though!

  • hotspur@lemmy.mlEnglish
    31·
    4 months ago

    It reminds me of an interview I saw with Alan Richardson (?), the guy playing reacher on the Amazon series. It was in support of the new season, but basically the conversation revolved around how exhausting it was to maintain the required physique for the role, and how it meant he couldn’t do some of the things he normally enjoyed—he was too heavy to run without impact injury, and flexibility and reach was an issue.

    I’d imagine transitioning between these physiques can probably be challenging and taxing on the body as well.

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
      443·
      4 months ago

      It’s definitely not the Disney/Marvel steroid program that Fox didn’t put it’s actors through…

      Like, even the world’s best trainers, nutritionists, and anything else couldn’t consistently get these results.

      They can take any random actor through that progression in like 9 months now.

      There’s no way they’re all able to do it. It’s worse than 90s baseball

      • Icalasari@fedia.io
        2010·
        4 months ago

        It’s not steroids. It’s severe dehydration plus oiling up the actor

        Still an awful act - His kidneys could shut down early as a result

        • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
          382·
          4 months ago

          I mean, it’s dehydration, but on top of steroids.

          Especially when you consider Jackman is fucking 55 years old. In the pic in the left from 20 years ago, he’s too old to look like the pic on the right.

          There is zero percent chance he’s not on them.

            • The Dark Lord ☑️@lemmy.caEnglish
              1·
              3 months ago

              Eating healthier would be so much easier if I had someone professionally trained at making healthy things tastier cooking food for me.

              Adding to that, time constraints wouldn’t be an issue. Sometimes making great tasting things is really a matter of spending a long time on a dish.

          • feedum_sneedson@lemmy.worldEnglish
            21·
            3 months ago

            It’s just testosterone and trenbolone, plus maybe a very short run of oral superdrol. Couple that with a ten week cut and some diuretics plus simple carbs just before filming. Six months bulking, three months cutting, every meal calorie counted and tracking macros. Still very hard on your body and requires more or less constantly thinking about.

      • falcunculus@jlai.luEnglish
        6·
        4 months ago

        Why not just VFX the abs onto the actors? If any TikTok user has access to convincing beauty filters then surely Hollywood as well.

        • BruceTwarzen@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          3 months ago

          I thought that was the joke of the movie. That his abs are fake. Because they looked so super oiled up and fake. I don’t even see why not. They can only maintain that kind of physique for a day of shooting or so.

      • ᴇᴍᴘᴇʀᴏʀ 帝@feddit.ukMEnglish
        1·
        3 months ago

        PEDs they’re one Hell of a drug.

        I don’t know if it’d be healthier if the guys getting superhero bodies just said it was done to drugs (like Tom Hardy), plus having a personal doctor, trainer and chef - just something that is unattainable for most people and unwise. As I imagine it’s a contributor to the problems with men’s mental health.

        You also have to wonder about the actor’s long-term health as things like HGH are really risky and diuretics can really put a strain on your system. If I was in the current generation of superhero actors, I’d be keeping a close eye on the first generation of musclemen, action heroes. It may be, with Hollywood money, you get regular checks to spot problems early and avoid the fate of a lot of the bodybuilders and wrestlers in their generation.

  • SilentObserver@lemm.eeEnglish
    15·
    3 months ago

    Holy cow! 24 years! I knew he has been playing Wolverine for quite awhile, but 24 years playing the same character is insane. And he just keeps getting better at it. Haven’t watch the new Deadpool yet, but I’m absolutely looking forward to it. Heard good things.

    • BruceTwarzen@lemm.eeEnglish
      102·
      4 months ago

      When i saw the movie i thought the joke was CGI muscles. But in some podcasts and other things people talked about they are real. Really confusing. Also someone apparently asked how they got to get into shape and they said it was pretty easy, he was never out of shape. The difference between the left and right picture could just be heavy dehydration. Someone even mentioned that even a glass of water could “ruin” his physique

      • prettybunnys@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        2·
        3 months ago

        Movie trailers will deliberately use cgi for things to cover up what might be spoiled otherwise, they’ll sometimes show beef cake muscles in a trailer when the movie has them wearing a uniform/costume.

        The trailer gets sex and doesn’t spoil anything.

  • ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    13·
    4 months ago

    In the comics Wolverine doesn’t age, because of his healing factor. I think Hugh Jackman might actually be Wolverine.