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    Trump appointee Aileen Cannon indefinitely postpones Trump classified documents trial, but I hardly see why that’s relevant.

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    Open corruption. Cool cool cool.

    Maybe there should be, idk, consequences?

    Let’s ask the rich people who groomed and appointed her. Oh, no? Well okay then.

    Off to the m*l*t*v store.

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    Make sure you don’t vote for Biden though, because of that one issue you suddenly care about.

    Inb4 the standard myopic replies from .ml accounts

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      that one issue you suddenly care about.

      That will also be significantly worse under Trump.

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        Yeah, but then 81 year old Biden will have sure have learned his lesson (wags finger)

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            What a bad “cynicism is easier than engaging with reality” zero-brain take.

            Many politicians just suck. Of course.

            But some politicians are clearly trying, growing, learning, and improving. And throwing them out with the bathwater, giving them no support, and equating them to the ones that suck is terminally, suicidally stupid.

            But hey, cynicism is easy. People think you’re cool, and you don’t have to put any effort in.

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              I hope Biden can grow and improve quicker, like preferably before election day so a bunch of voters won’t feel bad about voting for him. I really don’t want Trump.

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                Biden is easily the best president of my lifetime by a factor of 10, but good governance is boring and quiet, while propaganda is loud and distracting.

                If just doing a good job isn’t enough, then what else is there?

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                  He’s pretty good on most things, except the genocide issue. Which is unfortunate because that’s a big one for a whole lot of people. Which makes sense. No one will say Mussolini helped the trains run on time or Hitler’s wars helped the German economy. The other bad things they did make those things seem less consequential. Genocide is like that. A lot of people here are lucky because they live in the imperial core, but for others who knows those being affected by the foreign policy, then it’s priority rises even more.

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      It is also the lone issue that Repubs somehow aren’t oppositional defiant disorder about. “Let’s get the Muslim ban guy back in there, he’ll save Palestine.”

      Turns out there are plenty of useful idiots who think they are insulated from the consequences of an election by campus security and daddy’s money.

      But then others of them know what they’re up to. They want Donald to help speed the collapse so China can gain more ground. That’s hypocrisy, those guys don’t give a shit about human rights abuses as long as the nation committing them pretends to be socialist.

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      I.e. russian trolls playing the “thoughtful liberal” telling a heartfelt story about how they cannot vote for Biden in good conscience because of this issue.

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      I like how you avoid saying what the issue is, because it sounds a lot worse when you say it’s genocide. I think that’s a fair line in the sand to draw for people. Hopefully Biden movies on that stance soon so we don’t get Trump. We all better keep pushing him.

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        I think that’s a fair line in the sand to draw for people.

        If they actually cared, they wouldn’t be willing to risk allowing Trump to take over and do worse.

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            Nah, once you consider being for or against someone to be a “single issue”, then most votes through history get wrapped up in it, rendering it kind of moot.

            Additionally, I can easily break down the actual issues behind why I’m voting against trump :)

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    Fire her. She’s compromised and a Trump appointee that should have been recused.

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      How?

      Wouldn’t she need to be to be impeached by the House? The house is controlled by the GOP. Even if a few republicans wanted to remove her, you would still need the GOP speaker to bring this to the floor.

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        The prosecutor can request that she be removed from the case, but that’s extreme and, if fails, leaves him with a hostile judge that is also even more empowered than before.

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        The prosecutor would have to ask for her removal, which would be difficult to accomplish for sure.

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        And the house GOP passed a law that lets them oust their own speaker with a minority vote, too.

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          That’s not true.

          It still requires a simple majority to remove a speaker. In the case of Kevin McCarthy, the vote was 216 to 210, in favor of removal.

          What is new is that the GOP is allowing anyone to bring a motion to vacate to the floor. You still need a majority vote to oust someone, but any yahoo can now force the house to drop everything and vote on removing the speaker.

          That causes chaos and previously it required a higher bar to get a motion to vacate rolling.

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        It’d be nice if we had retention elections for these judges. The executive branch nominates judges and the legislative confirms them, but I’d like to see a choice on my ballot every so many years after a judge has been installed asking whether that judge should stay in office or not.

        Funny enough, Wikipedia mentions how scholars are opposed to retention elections because the judiciary is supposed to be the most removed from public opinion and introducing that would lead to special interest groups swaying outcomes and generally breeding corruption. The squeeze is that we’re already seeing corruption in courts anyways because of the very branches that install judges in the first place. All you have to do is look at this article or the Supreme Court.

        Now the real question would be if Supreme Court justices should be up for retention. That’s a rabbit hole I’m not sure what the consequences would lead to. Seems like term limits are still appropriate.

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      And she’s also wildly incompetent and biased, with this just being the latest in a long string of obvious moves to help him.

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        And also wildly inexperienced and unqualified for the role when she was appointed, having had no actual trial experience at that point.

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    I want to THANK Aileen Canon for making it LEGAL to STEAL TOP SECRET UNITED STATES DEFENSE DOCUMENTS!

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          Why always with the French. They waited for us to go first anyhoo. Let’s take back the I word from them and those Redcoats, I mean hats… I’m rocking stars and stripes and remembering 76! This our goddamn America, and they can hate our freedoms all they want, but this is the US motherfuckin A!

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        Yeah - my wealthy ex’s family bought him expensive lawyers, so he got to ignore multiple court orders during the divorce, while mine took $3k to do fuck all. “Justice” is contingent on being able to afford good lawyers.

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        As you get older, the internet remains the same cluster of ages. There are probably people on here twenty years younger than you.

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      Listen, I’ve seen this in every thread. The judges are just being extra careful so they can make sure the case doesn’t get thrown out because it’s a highly sensitive subject.

      Four years just wasn’t enough time. You have to be patient about these things. Give us another Friedman Unit or two to settle things out.

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          They’re trying to conflate a right-wing judge’s bias with those biG bAd LibErAlS who defend Garland’s meticulous albeit slow investigation and hand-off to Jack Smith I guess.

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        This is case with the trial judge he appointed himself, not the criminal trial on the hush money. The latter is being handled seriously.

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        Not sure if sarcasm or not, but after following quite a few (yes, YouTube) lawyers on this subject, I think it’s fair to say that a lot of it actually is that; Trump is a slippery bastard and getting him convicted is hard. last thing you want is to convict him, have fox news pull the “they made a mistake” cars, and actually be right. Once trump goes to jail, you better be sure he stays there.

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          Trump is a slippery bastard and getting him convicted is hard.

          Trump is sloppy, inept, and surrounded by people who routinely rat him out.

          He’s not slippery. He’s just standard-tier corrupt. That’s all it takes to defer prosecution indefinitely.

          Once trump goes to jail

          He’s not going to jail.

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            This. I cannot believe how naive people are being about this Trump thing. He’s not going to jail.

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          If you’ve been following it, then you would know not to believe a single fucking thing Aileen Cannon says.

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    Ladies and gentlemen, the party of law and order. We know who will be selected as the new supreme court judge soon…

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      Who’s the president right now? Wonder what he’s up to. Wonder if he’s fixing this. Wonder if he’s anything better than the capitalistic fascist of American conservatism.

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        I wish we had better civics classes in schools. It would be nice to skip past all the 13-year-olds’ spicy takes on why this judge is somehow Biden’s fault.

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          “the fact that i am at risk of seeing a 14 year old’s opinion at any time of day on the internet is a human rights violation” - nostradamus, 2020

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        Republicans have the majority at the moment. A president isn’t a dictator, though Trump is planning to become one.

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        Well if the supreme Court will give presidents immunity prior November, so that Trump can participate, then Biden just has to order a hit on him. because, you know presidents are immune… Problem solved

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          If Trump is actually, as so many claim, a threat to our way of government then he’s a domestic enemy.

          I guess maybe that’s all just trivial talk though.

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        Seems like you want to say something there little buddy. Be brave, say what you want to say instead of asking questions.

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          Those questions are extremely easily translated into statements:

          Biden is President right now
          He’s doing nothing to fix this

          Gosh my brain hurts after all that generous reading.

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            Do you even know what a president does? The fuck kind of idiotic take is this?

            Take a fucking civics course dumbass

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            I agree with that. How is that relevant to the root of this conversation?

            Just because the Republicans are shit doesn’t mean that the Democrats are not also shit.

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        He doesn’t have the majority needed to do all that needs to be done, otherwise he could’ve expanded SCOTUS already and reversed half the bullshit.

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      Oh man.

      After all this blue-ball edging and postponing I would so dearly love to see Biden win and then Trump all these stalled cases can get wrapped up.

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        I’d prefer for the cases to get wrapped up before the election, but I’ll settle for Biden winning and the delay tactics all becoming moot as Trump reaps what he sows.

        It might actually become a motivational point for both sides in this election for Trump to either see justice or skirt by it.

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        I honestly think if Biden wins a second term he might just stop giving a fuck and just begin abusing his power in a positive way.

        That’s my hope anyway. It’d be both a good thing if done well and hilarious.

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        Northern neighbor here, thank you. I don’t want to see Trump back, but am also glad I don’t have to vote in your elections. Not that I hate Biden, but your Democrats make our conservatives look like Communists…

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    Anybody know of any groups organizing a general strike? We are gonna have to stop the flow of money to these fucking vampires.

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      Probably not quite what your looking for, but I literally just came across this article about a potential general strike in 4 years:

      “UAW president Shawn Fain on May Day calls on unions to prepare for strike in 2028”

      https://www.al.com/news/2024/05/uaw-president-shawn-fain-on-may-day-calls-on-unions-to-prepare-for-strike-in-2028.html

      “We are fully preparing to strike on May Day 2028,” Shawn Fain wrote in a proposal on May Day, or International Workers Day.

      Fain said it is the only way workers can “win universal healthcare and the right to retire with dignity.”

      [In an op-ed (https://inthesetimes.com/article/may-day-2028-general-strike-working-class) for progressive publication In These Times, Fain said the union’s recent auto contracts were all aligned to expire on April 30, 2028. He called on other unions to do the same as way to mass power to “reshape the economy into one that works for the benefit of everyone.”

      “They want us to believe that corporate bosses gave workers decent wages, benefits and safer working conditions out of the goodness of their hearts. That justice and equality for people of color, for immigrants, for women and for queer communities were gifts benevolently handed down from above,” Fain wrote.

      “But we know the truth. Every law passed, every union formed and contract won—every improvement made at the workplace—has been won through the tireless sacrifice of the working class.”

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    Where are all those people that said Cannon “wouldnt ruin her career” doing something like this after it was pointed out that Trump appointed her?

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        He got what he wanted. The only thing that will happen is the bus bouncing a couple times after he throws her under it. Source: look at every other person in Donald’s orbit.

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    Judge Aileen Cannon has indefinitely postponed former President Donald Trump’s classified documents trial in Florida, citing significant issues around classified evidence that would need to be worked out before the federal criminal case goes to a jury.

    In an order Tuesday, Cannon cancelled the May trial date and did not set a new date.

    This is a developing story and will be updated.

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      You know, it may be because it was a military court, but Chelsea Manning seemed like she got a reasonably speedy trial. Pre-trial hearing in April to sentencing in August? Plenty of classified documents in that one, too.

      It’s not like this is the first case in US history that’s had classified material involved. Ridiculous.