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Ninmi to World News@lemmy.ml · 3 years ago

Ukraine suspends 11 political parties with links to Russia

www.theguardian.com

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Ukraine suspends 11 political parties with links to Russia

www.theguardian.com

Ninmi to World News@lemmy.ml · 3 years ago
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Zelenskiy says parties such as Viktor Medvedchuk’s Opposition Platform for Life are ‘aimed at division or collusion’
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  • pingveno@lemmy.ml
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    3 years ago

    Yikes, that’s not cool.

  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlBanned
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    While the parties that Zelensky banned were not all left wing (opposition platform for example was a coalition of parties across the spectrum), they were not pro-Russia either. These parties have all condemned the invasion. They were called pro-Russia because they wanted to have better relationship with Russia out of pragmatism and secure the rights of Russian speaking minorities in Ukraine. Zelensky was also elected to do the same. It is a centrist position. So now Ukraine only has far right parties.

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      Where did you find these details?

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlBanned
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        You can read about the parties and their platforms on wikipedia. For example, For Life is one of the banned parties that’s described as pro-Russian that publicly denounced the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine on 8 March 2022.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_Platform_—_For_Life

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    I mean, they’re actively fighting a war against Russia. Seems fair enough.

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    Where is the evidence that every one of these parties has links to Russia? The closest you get in this article comes from an unsourced claim from British intelligence (sus) which doesn’t even claim any collusion on behalf of the party itself.

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    Interestingly only in effect during the martial law, an apparent move to prevent a forced puppet government (hence severing all links to Russia). Strikes as a very anti-democratic move, but hard to believe any of this would remain in effect for long post war.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlBanned
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      Ah yes because famously when government grabs power under some pretex they immediately relinquish it when the pretext no longer applies. Just like all the powers US government granted itself during the war on terror were scrapped.

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        Relinquishing seems obvious, yes, especially considering their ambition on joining the EU.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlBanned
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          There is no realistic chance of Ukraine joining the EU and everyone knows that.

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            Not in the near future.

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlBanned
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              It’s not going to happen, that’s the reality. Frankly, the way things are going, I’m not expecting EU to be around too much longer either.

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                Your expectations will not be fulfilled. Don’t be too disappointed!

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlBanned
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                  It’s only been a month into the economic war and here’s the state of things already. My expectations are already being fulfilled.

                  https://moneyweek.com/economy/global-economy/604592/ukraine-and-the-coming-global-food-crisis

                  https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/greek-farmers-tractors-protest-unbearable-fuel-fertilizer-costs-2022-03-18/

                  https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220320-spain-hit-by-yet-another-mass-protest-over-rising-prices

  • isleofmist@lemmy.ml
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    Very democratic indeed!

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    When will America get around to this?

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlBanned
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      America is way ahead of the game where there are two parties with practically identical agenda and all the other parties are effectively shut out.

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        A truly patriotic party is beholden to local oligarchs (e.g. billionaires) instead of foreign oligarchs

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        This is a matter of math and political mechanics, not statutory or constitutional law. The framers of the US Constitution mostly didn’t even want parties to form, but parties formed almost instantly regardless. Then the reliance on single ballot plurality voting (first past the post) led to two parties. Even if a party has significant internal fractures like you find in both the Democratic and Republican parties, an equilibrium of two roughly equally sized parties is held because any other substantial party is pressured into a merger to produce an electoral majority. There have been several iterations of the two party system and every time it produced that equilibrium again.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlBanned
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          The whole US system is basically an oligarchy. Here’s what a recent large scale study analyzing many decades of US policy concludes:

          In the United States, our findings indicate, the majority does not rule—at least not in the causal sense of actually determining policy outcomes. When a majority of citizens disagrees with economic elites or with organized interests, they generally lose. Moreover, because of the strong status quo bias built into the U.S. political system, even when fairly large majorities of Americans favor policy change, they generally do not get it.

          I also recommend Democracy for the Few which is a great book discussing how US political system actually works. Any semblance of democracy is pure theatre.

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      You can’t ban pro-Russia parties in the US when the only pro-Russia party in the US has a viable minority in Congress and a majority in the Supreme Court.

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