• DannyMac@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I like how he’s turning extwitter into 4chan. Advertisers hate it though, but advertising only accounts for 90% of their revenue, nbd

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      I don’t remember hearing what Jack Dorsey thought of anything.

      Musk has literally paid 30 billion to have his own private megaphone on the internet.

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      That’s ok, Muskoid is going to sue the ADL and Media Matters, and based on his extremely flawed ideas regarding Freedom Of Speech, he probably believes he can win lol.

      he’s such a fucking clown

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        His claim for suing Media Matters is that ads don’t always appear next to Neo-Nazis, therefore they had to hit refresh until one did.

        Which… they never said otherwise? And that doesn’t really change things?

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          right? they’ve illustrated it happens. Advertisers don’t want to be shown with nazi content, elon’s hosting nazi content, it’s really that simple.

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          No, it’s that they didn’t for anyone organically. Media Matters essentially broke their advertising algo and pretended anyone else saw them.

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              They followed specific people and topics (neonazis and major brands) to bring it about. Seems fine to me.

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              That isn’t accurate - you can look up the details before getting all fussy. Of all the twitter users they were the only user that saw one pairing and one of the other pairings may have been seen by one actual user, but also might’ve just been MM seeing it twice.

              It wasn’t an organic thing and it’ll be interesting to see if it goes to court.

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                It wasn’t an organic thing and it’ll be interesting to see if it goes to court.

                it was completely organic. no outside-twitter resources were used to achieve the result - they literally used twitter’s tools and proved it could happen readily. That’s all advertisers need to see to bug the fuck out.

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                  We have different definitions of organic. I think the fact that only they saw some of the pairings shows it’s something no legitimate user did.

                  You don’t have to modify a lawn mower to flip it upside down and throw cats in it my friend.

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                    You don’t have to modify a lawn mower to flip it upside down and throw cats in it my friend.

                    no you just have to be a psychopath to suggest it.

                    did they break twitter, inject code, falsify user records, hack anything? No.

                    They used the service as it’s intended - picked some people and brands to follow then refreshed their feed. Buddy, that’s as organic as manure - and even if it somehow was gamed, dozens of other instances of hate shit being positioned aside brands THAT RIGHTFULLY DON’T WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH HATE SHIT have been posted - it’s not just media matters.

                    it’s not just the ADL’s criticism.

                    GET IT THROUGH YOUR FUCKING MELON - Musk’s the problem. Your refusal to see the obvious is sad.

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                    If your lawnmower is faulty and you find out after a couple of uses, I don’t claim it only counts if the lawnmower was used by each person once.

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                Musk and Yaccarino claim hat it wasn’t displayed that way to any regular users. We have no way of verifying that.

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                  You can read my other comments. They filed a lawsuit referring to their analytics. If it’s a lie it will come out in discovery.

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                    I’m aware of that. However, Twitter’s own records are the sole source of this information. If they managed to falsify it without text messages or emails, how would the court find that out? How could anyone verify whether the records are complete and accurate in the first place?

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      What’s the advertising like on 4chan? I haven’t been on there in like 15 years. Maybe there were banner ads last time I was on there lol.