• vivadanang@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    That’s ok, Muskoid is going to sue the ADL and Media Matters, and based on his extremely flawed ideas regarding Freedom Of Speech, he probably believes he can win lol.

    he’s such a fucking clown

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      His claim for suing Media Matters is that ads don’t always appear next to Neo-Nazis, therefore they had to hit refresh until one did.

      Which… they never said otherwise? And that doesn’t really change things?

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        1 year ago

        right? they’ve illustrated it happens. Advertisers don’t want to be shown with nazi content, elon’s hosting nazi content, it’s really that simple.

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        No, it’s that they didn’t for anyone organically. Media Matters essentially broke their advertising algo and pretended anyone else saw them.

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            11 months ago

            They followed specific people and topics (neonazis and major brands) to bring it about. Seems fine to me.

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            That isn’t accurate - you can look up the details before getting all fussy. Of all the twitter users they were the only user that saw one pairing and one of the other pairings may have been seen by one actual user, but also might’ve just been MM seeing it twice.

            It wasn’t an organic thing and it’ll be interesting to see if it goes to court.

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              It wasn’t an organic thing and it’ll be interesting to see if it goes to court.

              it was completely organic. no outside-twitter resources were used to achieve the result - they literally used twitter’s tools and proved it could happen readily. That’s all advertisers need to see to bug the fuck out.

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                We have different definitions of organic. I think the fact that only they saw some of the pairings shows it’s something no legitimate user did.

                You don’t have to modify a lawn mower to flip it upside down and throw cats in it my friend.

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                  1 year ago

                  You don’t have to modify a lawn mower to flip it upside down and throw cats in it my friend.

                  no you just have to be a psychopath to suggest it.

                  did they break twitter, inject code, falsify user records, hack anything? No.

                  They used the service as it’s intended - picked some people and brands to follow then refreshed their feed. Buddy, that’s as organic as manure - and even if it somehow was gamed, dozens of other instances of hate shit being positioned aside brands THAT RIGHTFULLY DON’T WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH HATE SHIT have been posted - it’s not just media matters.

                  it’s not just the ADL’s criticism.

                  GET IT THROUGH YOUR FUCKING MELON - Musk’s the problem. Your refusal to see the obvious is sad.

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                    no you just have to be a psychopath to suggest it.

                    Ah. Miss the point and make a stupid medical diagnosis? Not the best start. I’ll get back to this.

                    They used the service as it’s intended - picked some people and brands to follow then refreshed their feed.

                    If it’s organic why did nobody else see the combo? They literally behaved in a way no other user has, and it was contrived to find edge cases in the ad service. It’s not organic use.

                    We’re talking about facts and definitions. There’s no reason for you to be this worked up, angry or vile to other people.

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                  If your lawnmower is faulty and you find out after a couple of uses, I don’t claim it only counts if the lawnmower was used by each person once.

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                    When nobody has a problem with your millions of mowers except one guy, we usually ask what’s wrong with the guy rather than the mower.

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              11 months ago

              Musk and Yaccarino claim hat it wasn’t displayed that way to any regular users. We have no way of verifying that.

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                You can read my other comments. They filed a lawsuit referring to their analytics. If it’s a lie it will come out in discovery.

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                  11 months ago

                  I’m aware of that. However, Twitter’s own records are the sole source of this information. If they managed to falsify it without text messages or emails, how would the court find that out? How could anyone verify whether the records are complete and accurate in the first place?

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                    11 months ago

                    That’s up to the defense to work out. It would be pretty difficult to completely falsify the interactions that led to it, but that’s way worse than what they’re suing over.