Larry Ellison is famous for being the most eggregious at financing his lifestyle tax free by taking out loans (doesn’t count as income) against his stock. His Zionazi/MAGA media (WB, tiktok) takeovers are financed by his loans on Oracle stock. UAE may one day soon, back out of it’s Zionist assistance in WB takeover, which Ellison has had to promise to fully backstop. 30% of his Oracle ownership was secured to loans in 2025. Extra $40B guarantee for WB puts him closer to bankruptcy. Tiktok investment was purely for zionazi media control. All profits go to bytedance still. WB purchase is also pure zionazi motivated, as it is grossly overpriced takeover.
Forced sale of Oracle stock would incur a huge tax bill, and lenders seizing the shares also gives him the same tax bill, afaiu.
If the end result of all this AI mess is the death of Oracle I’m okay with it.
kinda long overdue
Great visualization of sunk cost 😅
… So oracle has been pretty much a straight and slow climb in valuation since 2002.
They had a significant and fast “spike” for pretty much the year of 2025 and then dropped back down to that same slow climb trend (if you ignore the 2025 spike, their chart would look the same as it has for the past 20 years of mostly slow upwards momentum).
Upon the news today, their stock went up 6%.
In other words, like most things shown to you, you’ve been presented with cherry picked data points to align with the agenda that the presenter wants you to have.
As a side note, I wish about 95% of all ai would burn to the ground, along with Oracle.
yeah they’re just back to last year march values, also the fall started October and has been steady, nothing to do with these news
While I agree, the more people who see that Oracle tanked on the AI trend, the better.
Larry Ellison is a MAGA fuckwad
That’s good to know, but I don’t really need another reason to hate Oracle. I’ve been doing this for years and years.
He’s also very likely fucked kids. His name appears in 85 Epstein documents. So far.
They’re still good 5 years performance +109.54% 1 year performance +4.97%Is it fundamentally weird that massive companies have such massive spikes of essentially imaginary valuation? Isn’t the only useful thing we get out of turning our economy into a casino accurate pricing driven by market forces? How can this market decide if a massive established figure is worth $300 or $150 decades after its creation?
The answer is surprisingly easy, the valuation comes from the price people are willing to pay for the stock.
People seem to believe the AI hype will increase value, or at least are willing to bet that it will, and thus are willing to pay more for it.
one day later it’s down to 104% so 5 less
Oracle’s software is massively used to count money. Now there’s AI in there. The AI is terrible at counting.
We are about to experience the whole new dimension of fuuuuuuuck.
Imagine making a computer that can’t count
It can count but it’s easily distracted, and will make something up if it forgets a detail halfway.
Bro I already have ADHD just let me do it instead
I can’t even imagine making a computer that can count.
Just hit sand with enough lightning you’ll eventually get something
Good, fuck them.
I thought it might be y-axis fuckery, but nah their stock has actually tanked.
More x axis fuckery, if you zoomed out to the period which they actually went all in on AI, about two years ago, you’d see they were rewarded for it with a spike in evaluation, before coming back to earth which OP is showing.
On the other side if you zoom into today, when the layoff announcement was made, they’re up ~6%
It’s still misleading; overall it’s back to a “normal” trajectory.
Receding value does still pose massive problems for a company, between reputation cost and massively reallocating funds they hoped to use. overextension isn’t unusual and the implosion can be terrifying. Hence oracle’s 30000 personnel cuts. Personally, I hope they die horribly. Fuck oracle.
If we’re really super lucky the Paramount/WB merger falls apart because Daddy’s shiny money just ain’t there no more.
Mad props to whoever shorted back in September.
That reminds me. I’ve been abusing their free tier. Need to line something else up to replace them for when they finish collapsing.
I guess I’m lucky they never let me sign up with a Proton email because it was “suspicious” and went with a cheap ovh droplet instead.
I did it back when I had zero dollars and lots of time. Probably stand up my own box now. I honestly don’t need much since I don’t host game servers or anything anymore, just a discord bot.
Same
Don’t link images from Reddit. They do some fuckery where they redirect from the bare file to an HTML page containing it.
Just straight-up steal the image and re-upload it to Lemmy instead, like this (hidden in a spoiler tag in this case because WTF):
spoiler
Having your URL end with …/file.ext and not linking to the raw file.ext should be illegal.
Ugh, even when I no longer go there, they still manage to piss me off. Still, siphoning pennies from them with image hosting costs outweighs my minor annoyance. Self hosting is costly
JESUS CHRIST, A LITTLE WARNING NEXT TIME?!
I totally though it’d be the image of the white techbro-lookin dude with tears in his eyes.
I wish we were still at the point where they might look vaguely human. No, they’ve long since morphed into a living pestilence in both body and mind. Just one more county in middle America, bro.
I know someone who works there who’s a huge lazy asshole I hope he got laid off
You’ve met Larry Ellison too?
Oh so that’s why they’ve suddenly been arrassing my company for license money
