• Sop@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    The meme, as used by westerners, is a racist caricature regardless of its origin. Jewish people also used to make caricatures about themselves as inside joke, nazi’s appropriating those caricatures was and is still racist regardless of the origin of the caricatures.

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      Sorry but goverment leaders are not a protected class, regardless of their ethnicity. The pooh meme is not about the Chinese, but specifically about Xi.

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        That’s irrelevant. If a nonjewish person draws a antisemitic caricature of Netanyahu it’s still racist and offensive to all jewish people.

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          Yeah, because antisemitism is a form of racism. But you could still draw a characture of him without relying on racist tropes.

          I’ve never once seen Chinese people in general compared to Winnie the Pooh. Just Xi personally. Are you trying to argue that making a characture of a person in a different ethnic group from you is automatically racist?

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            I’ve absolutely seen shitstains find out someone is Chinese then start posting or replying to them with Winnie the Pooh content or memes. I bet the original joke was meant to be specific, but when I see people use it in response to someone talking about China or being Chinese in general, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

            Like, Pepe the frog wasn’t intended to be an image associated with bigotry and the artist themselves has denounced it full-throatedly. That doesn’t mean it isn’t used as a dog whistle for racists.

            Shitty people are gonna be shitty, I realize, but I think broad sweeping generalizations in either direction aren’t useful.

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            The yellow skin is the racist trope. And there might be other tropes there that I’m personally not aware of.

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        Nowhere did I state that. In the context that white people have a history of dehumanising Chinese people through yellow caricatures it is pretty suspect that white people are jumping at the chance to joke about a Chinese person looking like a yellow bear, often while they repeat US state propaganda about China.