Oh look at you little Ukraine understander there. You can do all the mental gymnastics you want there, but the reality of the situation is pretty clear. Imbecilic propagandists like you are going to have their work cut out for them going forward explaining what’s happening. Your whole narrative is collapsing and it’s becoming more obvious by the day.
I think you’ve been watching so much Russian-aligned propaganda about Ukraine that you’ve hit the Dunning-Kruger effect. You’re more than willing to call other people idiots, but it sounds like you’ve been feeding for hours at the trough of outright Russian propaganda. Not news media with some bias, literal government propaganda. All governments involved do it to some degree, but it doesn’t mean you have to accept it. At this point it seems like you’re not even considering whether you’re being manipulated, as long as the manipulator is aligned with Russia.
You should really take a look in a mirror someday. Everything you’ve been claiming about the conflict has turned out to be false, yet here you are telling me with a straight face that I’m the one suffering from Dunning-Kruger.
The facts are that western powers ran a coup in Ukraine that set the ground for the current events. Ukraine has been in a civil war since 2014, and majority of the people in eastern Ukraine do not support western backed regime.
This regime never had a chance to win a war against Russia, and all western support for the regime is simply prolonging the agony for people in Ukraine. Useful idiots, such as yourself, are helping prolong western public support for this nightmare.
Maybe you should take your own advice and ask where you yourself are being manipulated, and why the war is not turning out the way you thought it would.
Everything you’ve been claiming about the conflict has turned out to be false
Remember when you were claiming that it wouldn’t happen at all? And I was more cautious, saying that it was too early to call it either way? Then Russia invaded.
The facts are that western powers ran a coup in Ukraine that set the ground for the current events.
No, they really didn’t. I don’t care how many times people post that one transcript, the 2014 overthrow was carried out by Ukrainians. The only public record shows that foreign governments had relatively minor involvement on the periphery.
majority of the people in eastern Ukraine do not support western backed regime
You sure? I know the Russian backed separatists claim this, but is this actually known to be true? Hard to tell when there’s a combination of an occupying force and separatists that were armed by that force. Also, some of those cities in eastern Ukraine that you’re saying don’t support the current government were just getting the shit beat out of them by Russia. Assuming that their support is entirely up to their ethnicity and native language seems a little presumptuous.
This regime never had a chance to win a war against Russia, and all western support for the regime is simply prolonging the agony for people in Ukraine. Useful idiots, such as yourself, are helping prolong western public support for this nightmare.
Well I want Russia to get hurt bad by this war. If they’re not, they’re just going to come back for more and more and more as evidenced by the weak response to Georgia and Crimea. I want this to be this generation’s Afghanistan, their US-Vietnam War. A war that makes a whole generation a little more hesitant to waltz across their neighbor’s borders and start murdering.
Maybe you should take your own advice and ask where you yourself are being manipulated, and why the war is not turning out the way you thought it would.
I don’t know how this war will come out. You frequently claim how it’s going to inevitably going to come out, but I’ve shied away from that. There are too many variables. And I know full well that people are trying to manipulate me, and sometimes I make mistakes.
Remember when you were claiming that it wouldn’t happen at all? And I was more cautious, saying that it was too early to call it either way? Then Russia invaded.
Sure, I didn’t think there would be a war. I’ve stated my reasons for that clearly.
No, they really didn’t. I don’t care how many times people post that one transcript, the 2014 overthrow was carried out by Ukrainians. The only public record shows that foreign governments had relatively minor involvement on the periphery.
Yes, they really do. Every serious person in the west including people like Chomsky, Mearsheimer, and now even Kissinger say this. The fact that you continue to deny this shows just how divorced from reality you are on your media diet of propaganda.
You sure?
Yeah, I’m sure. My mother’s side of the family is from Ukraine, I know people who actually live in Ukraine. The fact that westerners like you who don’t speak the language, and know nothing about the country continue bleating nonsense is incredibly infuriating to watch.
Well I want Russia to get hurt bad by this war
They won’t be. This is clear to anyone who understands anything about his conflict. On the other hand, the west is being hurt tremendously by this war already. You can keep dreaming of your fantasies, but as everything else you say, they’re divorced from reality.
I don’t know how this war will come out. You frequently claim how it’s going to inevitably going to come out, but I’ve shied away from that. There are too many variables. And I know full well that people are trying to manipulate me, and sometimes I make mistakes.
I simply follow what actual military, political, and economic experts say. None of them are shying from predicting the outcome of this.
That map supports what I said you dumb fuck.
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Oh look at you little Ukraine understander there. You can do all the mental gymnastics you want there, but the reality of the situation is pretty clear. Imbecilic propagandists like you are going to have their work cut out for them going forward explaining what’s happening. Your whole narrative is collapsing and it’s becoming more obvious by the day.
I think you’ve been watching so much Russian-aligned propaganda about Ukraine that you’ve hit the Dunning-Kruger effect. You’re more than willing to call other people idiots, but it sounds like you’ve been feeding for hours at the trough of outright Russian propaganda. Not news media with some bias, literal government propaganda. All governments involved do it to some degree, but it doesn’t mean you have to accept it. At this point it seems like you’re not even considering whether you’re being manipulated, as long as the manipulator is aligned with Russia.
You should really take a look in a mirror someday. Everything you’ve been claiming about the conflict has turned out to be false, yet here you are telling me with a straight face that I’m the one suffering from Dunning-Kruger.
The facts are that western powers ran a coup in Ukraine that set the ground for the current events. Ukraine has been in a civil war since 2014, and majority of the people in eastern Ukraine do not support western backed regime.
This regime never had a chance to win a war against Russia, and all western support for the regime is simply prolonging the agony for people in Ukraine. Useful idiots, such as yourself, are helping prolong western public support for this nightmare.
Maybe you should take your own advice and ask where you yourself are being manipulated, and why the war is not turning out the way you thought it would.
Remember when you were claiming that it wouldn’t happen at all? And I was more cautious, saying that it was too early to call it either way? Then Russia invaded.
No, they really didn’t. I don’t care how many times people post that one transcript, the 2014 overthrow was carried out by Ukrainians. The only public record shows that foreign governments had relatively minor involvement on the periphery.
You sure? I know the Russian backed separatists claim this, but is this actually known to be true? Hard to tell when there’s a combination of an occupying force and separatists that were armed by that force. Also, some of those cities in eastern Ukraine that you’re saying don’t support the current government were just getting the shit beat out of them by Russia. Assuming that their support is entirely up to their ethnicity and native language seems a little presumptuous.
Well I want Russia to get hurt bad by this war. If they’re not, they’re just going to come back for more and more and more as evidenced by the weak response to Georgia and Crimea. I want this to be this generation’s Afghanistan, their US-Vietnam War. A war that makes a whole generation a little more hesitant to waltz across their neighbor’s borders and start murdering.
I don’t know how this war will come out. You frequently claim how it’s going to inevitably going to come out, but I’ve shied away from that. There are too many variables. And I know full well that people are trying to manipulate me, and sometimes I make mistakes.
Sure, I didn’t think there would be a war. I’ve stated my reasons for that clearly.
Yes, they really do. Every serious person in the west including people like Chomsky, Mearsheimer, and now even Kissinger say this. The fact that you continue to deny this shows just how divorced from reality you are on your media diet of propaganda.
Yeah, I’m sure. My mother’s side of the family is from Ukraine, I know people who actually live in Ukraine. The fact that westerners like you who don’t speak the language, and know nothing about the country continue bleating nonsense is incredibly infuriating to watch.
They won’t be. This is clear to anyone who understands anything about his conflict. On the other hand, the west is being hurt tremendously by this war already. You can keep dreaming of your fantasies, but as everything else you say, they’re divorced from reality.
I simply follow what actual military, political, and economic experts say. None of them are shying from predicting the outcome of this.
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LMFAO