A new report shows the number of monthly abortions in the U.S. went up slightly in the first three months of 2024 compared with before the Supreme Court overturned Roe V.
  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
    66·
    4 months ago

    I’m sure it’s just a coincidence that it’s way up mostly in states that border states that make it entirely illegal.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
        51·
        4 months ago

        Because women are a hell of a lot less likely to carry a fetus to term if they know they might die if they do.

          • nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca
            71·
            4 months ago

            Nobody on the other side is listening. Their response to this will be a national abortion ban and a federal database to track women’s menstrual cycles. They’re just trying not to talk about it during the election. People who believe they’re saving children from being murdered cannot be reasoned with. They are infinitely motivated and can never be trusted.

            • stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub
              12·
              4 months ago

              That is the most nihilistic and ignorant statement I’ve ever heard in my life tbh

              You’re generalizing hundreds of thousands of people and essentially saying “my vote doesn’t matter”

              I’m saying this not to be a dick, but because I care about my species - you sound like you’re in a very negative headspace and I’m not sure that’s going to be very valuable for you for much longer. You’re generalizing hundreds of thousands of people to one stereotype and assuming that any and all labor towards educating or advocating isn’t worth it.

              Fuck that. Defeatist bullshit is for the defeated, and last I checked, battle is still going. I sincerely hope you are only affected by and not perpetuating defeatist logic into the global population.

              • nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca
                51·
                4 months ago

                That is the most nihilistic and ignorant statement I’ve ever heard in my life tbh

                Then read better. My argument is that literally zero pro-life people will be swayed by this data. Their response will be that children are still being murdered, so they should move to for a national ban. The train you’re talking your feelings about my comment rather than anything of substance is that you know I’m right. This is opposite of nihilism - these people must be beaten , conclusively, at the ballot box specifically because they cannot be convinced, and the information environment in the US is too toxic for that to substantially change. Good news - pro lifers are a minority and can be beaten this way. But winning requires actually having some understanding of reality.

                • stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub
                  1·
                  4 months ago

                  I guarantee if you educate their children in schools ahead of time, teenage rebellion will encourage more states to become (over time, as older generations fade) more pro-choice

                  Guaran-fucking-tee it. Yes that involves legislature and voting, but yes it does mean you can sway parents via education of at least their family and/or friends.

    • Socsa@sh.itjust.works
      5·
      4 months ago

      This is why I’ve added abortion access funds to my charitable giving portfolio. Especially ones in border states like Virginia and DC.

      I wish I could find a way to host travelers or forward pills but those programs are understandably kept really on the downlow.

  • stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub
    541·
    4 months ago

    Wait a god damn minute…

    You mean to tell me that taking away women’s ability to get medical attention for dangerous pregnancies results in more women opting to abort the problematic pregnancy to save both herself and/or her baby from a lifetime of disability, if not death, and other mental disorders in a country riddled with humanitarian issues???

    WHO WOULDVE FUCKING THOUGHT

    Sick and tired of creepy fucking weirdos trying to control women in this god damned country. FUCK OFF

  • solsangraal@lemmy.zipEnglish
    44·
    4 months ago

    abortion should be free for whoever wants one, no questions asked. that would still cost less than the state subsidizing raising unwanted kids for 18 years. and unwanted children wouldn’t have to grow up being unwanted. and before anyone talks about adoption: the absolute fucking shitshow of trying to adopt needs to be overhauled in a major way before that’s even a suggestion

    • Boinkage@lemmy.worldEnglish
      26·
      4 months ago

      Yes but you see, 2,000 years ago God told some random dudes to write a book that says almost nothing about abortion, which of course means today that abortion is very very bad and we should never do it. It’s important that we write our laws keeping in mind what God told these guys 2,000 years ago, even though the book they wrote doesn’t actually say abortion is wrong.

      • Icalasari@fedia.io
        26·
        4 months ago

        Oh, the book says things on abortions

        Like God not considering babies as alive until birth, giving instructions to outright abort in some cases, and to dash baby heads against rocks if the babies are of the enemy

      • solsangraal@lemmy.zipEnglish
        6·
        4 months ago

        abortion: eeeeeevil we must stop all abortions at all costs regardless of anything!!!

        school shootings: meh. it is what it is, whattayagonnado amirite?

    • pivot_root@lemmy.world
      2·
      4 months ago

      Unfortunately, it’s not in the interests of those who benefit from the poor and uneducated to decrease the number of poor and uneducated.

    • Bocky@lemmy.world
      1·
      4 months ago

      Adoption is a tough thing to control. If they make it easier, corporations could eventually find a way to take advantage and profit from it.

      • bobs_monkey@lemm.ee
        2·
        4 months ago

        Eh I dunno about all that. As far as I know, state-run adoption and foster programs really just need the funding to employ (and adequately pay) the right number of people to do a good job. As it sits, most caseworkers and admin staff are so overwhelmed by the kid to staff ratio that they don’t have the time to ensure everything is copacetic in each individual case.

        The solution to your point is to keep the private sector as far away as humanely possible.

  • norimee@lemmy.world
    38·
    4 months ago

    You don’t have the luxury to wait anymore now. Especially when you have health issues. If you wait to see if your pregnacy is viable or if your body can do it they might just let you die when urgent complications arise.

    I would be scared shitless, being pregnant in one of these anti-choice states. This would probably make me work out a plan for a save termination somewhere rather sooner than later.

  • YaDownWitCPP@lemmy.worldEnglish
    139·
    4 months ago

    Overturning Roe simply brought A LOT of attention to the abortion topic. Now you have a lot more women becoming addicted to having abortions.

    It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to figure this stuff out.

    • skulblaka@sh.itjust.works
      23·
      4 months ago

      Now you have a lot more women becoming addicted to having abortions

      What in the actual fuck are you talking about? People becoming addicted to an invasive medical surgery? Jesus christ, you people are actually unhinged. 100% chance you are a male with no fucking idea what you’re talking about, and you need to go get addicted to a vasectomy. Addicted to abortions, fuck sake…

    • palordrolap@kbin.run
      7·
      4 months ago

      There are people of all genders who enjoy being kicked repeatedly in the crotch.

      Would you like to volunteer to see if you are one of those people? How about we do it a few times to see if you get addicted?

    • Notyou
      5·
      4 months ago

      Addicted to having abortions? That is hilarious. 😂

      Oh you were serious? Well…as a straight white man that has never had to deal with an abortion, let me tell you something…Shut up. You’re an idiot and definitely not a “brain surgeon.” 😂