The most toxic communities I know of are the Genshin community, Payday 2, FFXIV and source games communities in general.

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      100%. I stopped playing a decade ago, but when I played I was always amazed at the behaviour it brought out in people. I would watch people who I considered friends IRL turn into abusive jerks when I played with them. It’s this weird prisoner’s dillemma of a game where the psychology of the game appears to encourage ganging up on the weakest player.

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        That’s what happens if you design a game in a way that makes it worse to have a bad player in your team than no player at all.

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        I think you’re on to something here. I play all kinds of games with friends, and DOTA was the only one where I’d actively get shit on for my lack of skill. And that’s from real life friends too.

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      League was the poster child for toxic communities a decade or so ago when I played. It must have gotten better (it certainly couldn’t have gotten worse!) if this isn’t the top comment by a mile.

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      Reporting players for in-game behaviour rarely did anything.

      And there was no reporting mechanism at all if they decided to continue harassing you through DMs after the game was over - all you could do was block them.

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        I agree. But I want to give them some credit. I report people for being toxic or for afking. Recently the client tells me almost after every game that someone in my previous game was punished after my report.

        Now, I can never easily validate this. But if its true it seems riot is taking a much more active role with automated punishment.

        League of Legends is pretty fun. Just “mute all” every game and it’s a lot more tolerable. Don’t let the people that tilt after one or two deaths get to you. Recent comeback changes make the game playable until your nexus explodes

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      Can confirm- playing that game, if you don’t have enough friends online to make a full team- is painful… Very painful.

      Don’t play this game solo. Don’t play it with strangers. You will have a bad time.

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        They clamped down so much that I get a 3 day chat ban for saying “sex”

        Its cleaned up chat a lot but the people quitting as soon as the game goes down hill are still there

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    Man FFXIV is no ray of sunshine but I can’t imagine it’s anyway near as bad as literally any competitive game. I’ve never been called a slur in FFXIV before and it feels like it happens once a session for things like Dota, LoL, Overwatch, Siege, etc.

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      Yeah, I kind of disagree with FFXIV. My whole experience there last year was entirely pleasant.

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        Second this, you’ll get a couple sweatlords every now and then especially if you’re running end game content but the first 100 or more hours of gameplay are absolutely pleasant. I only interacted with the reddit group outside of game but those guys were also nice.

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          Basically just don’t prog endgame content on pf and you avoid most issues. And don’t crash an ERP den and be shocked to see whatever goes on in there.

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      I’ve played with some rude individuals on FFXIV, like those annoyed that new players haven’t memorised low-level dungeons and are unable to speedrun them. By and large I’d agree, though. I joined after playing SWTOR for years and could immediately tell the difference.

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    Rainbow Six Siege is up there — there’s six dimensions of assholery in the game by my count.

    • Tom Clancy games tend to attract right-wing assholes because they’re Tom Clancy
    • competitive FPS
    • one-shot one-kill gameplay
    • friendly fire on by default
    • character picks
    • you need to play to a specific meta
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      Not sure if this still happens, but for groups of 4 that used to want to play together, there was no way to lock the team or kick from lobby. So what would happen is you’d get match-maked in as the 5th player, and as soon as the game started, your team would kill you. This would happen about 25% of the time with random matchmaking.

      I ended up quitting R6 Siege because of the toxicity and constant slurs on voice chat. It’s a shame because it was otherwise my favourite competitive FPS.

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        It’s common enough that I remember it too. Now you get kicked for teamkilling more than once, but groups can just alternate teamkills to avoid this.

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    Easily Rocket League. It’s always been toxic but it’s been much worse since becoming free to play.

    • Rage quitting
    • Malicious compliance (AFK, accidental own-goals)
    • Team mates playing for the opposing team entire games
    • Passive aggressive quick chats
    • Overtly aggressive free-form chats (being chastised over every tiny mistake)

    The game’s competitive ranking systems makes it so each win and loss matters, and people often take their vitriol out on their own team before looking inwards.

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      I turned the chat off a long time ago. Instantly made the game better. I don’t need a kid to show off his NSFW vocabulary.

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        I play both Rocket League and Apex with chat off. Can’t be bothered to entertain these little shitheads tenper tantrum

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      I played CSGO for a decade l or more. Got into rocket league and found the community far worse in rocket league. Counterstrike is like a chatroom with guns. Rocket league is wanna be pro level play and blaming teammates when you can’t make the play you wanted to.

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      People do that stuff in casual, too, which just blows my mind.

      I turned off “all non tactical chats” or whatever the setting is called, and that helped a lot.

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      Every game community has some rotten apples but RL has by far the highest percentage of 'em in any game I’ve played. I get the urge to play RL a few times per year, but it only takes a few games (be it casual or competitive) to put me off again.

  • Im just going to say FFXIV in my experience has a very friendly community, one of the nicest ive seen, so i dont fully understand where that comes from.

    For me it would probably be Garry’s Mod, as its full of so many edgy teens who constantly say the n word.

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      Anything FromSoftware really. Any question is answered with a variation of “git gud”. Not to mention the elitism.

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      Idk, the community on Reddit/online is pretty friendly and active. In PVP and co-op it’s typically pretty great the first week after launch and about 2-3 years after launch.

      You can’t really get around the fact that self imposed challenge is a huge part of how the core fans enjoy the game and I think it’s difficult for newcomers to know when hardcore fans are speaking to them vs their own compatriots.

      Sekiro fans are hugely supportive of newcomers though, probably because it’s a relatively less played game. The community around Elden Ring suffered from its own success I think.

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    As a FFXIV player, your experience or understanding of the game sounds like an outlier… I’ve played for 2+ years, it’s the most positive, welcoming and lively community I’ve ever come across!

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      Totally agree. I’ve been in some dailies where we keep wiping over and over due to new player and usually everyone is super understanding and gives pointers and help. I’ve rarely had a toxic pug in FFXIV. One one of the reasons each expansion brings me back.

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      Agree. I’ve been playing the game for the last year and am now almost at the end of the MSQ and I’ve basically encountered zero toxic people and plenty of people that went out of their way to be helpful. If anything, a few BLM players were trying a bit too much to help pointing out issues with my BLM rotation, which isn’t helpful when you’re still below LVL 50 and getting new spells every other level. Haven’t seen anything like that since switching to RDM, so it may just be a BLM thing.

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        I don’t think other players can see your rdm bar, so they have no way to judge what your next move should be, since there is really no rotation, it’s more of a reactionary class depending in what procs.

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    I can tell no one here has played Mordhau lol. It’s basically wall to wall neo Nazis spamming racial slurs. I got regular death threats, like almost every match. Destiny? Little league bullshit.

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      Told someone I played rust and they asked if I was racist or suicidal because those are apparently the qualifiers.

      It really does bring the worst out of humanity, but at the same time I’ve met and known people for years who were my neighbors or even rivals

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        Same people I game with today I meet on rust. Only a couple of us still play as we are all older now and have real jobs but great friends.

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      Was looking for this lol.

      I bought a Rust ages ago, back when the development basically had it turning into a new game every year. Maybe I just got lucky back then, but never had a toxic interaction.

      Cut to last year, when a group of guild members went to Rust so I redownloaded it after 5 years. Most of us only lasted a few hours and we tried half a dozen servers lol.

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        Yes, it’s crazy to me that people would think another game is more toxic because in rust most servers (I’m talking main/officiall servers) are really popular for at least half a week being Thursday wipes and Monday, if you build next to toxic you deal with them that whole wipe and then monthly servers same thing. It’s not one match and done with them I’m talking days and hours of just straight toxic gameplay.

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    Most MOBAs are pretty notoriously bad, though Heroes of Newerth was definitely the worst one of those i had played.

    Anecdotally, my personal worst experience was with FFXIV, which was probably exacerbated by how much praise that community gets otherwise. The Novice Network system they have is a mess, new players are put into a channel with a bunch of “mentors” that don’t really want to help anyone, at least on the server I was on. They either wanted a global chat channel for their own use, or just wanted the cosmetic rewards mentors had on offer. I remember one actively trying to get new players to quit if he found out they had come from WoW. The channel is entirely self-moderated, and mentors would kick people out just for fun. It’s an AWFUL first impression for newer players.

    One thing WoW definitely does better with their Guide channel is giving literally no tangible rewards to guides, if somebody is opting into being a Guide it is only because they want to help new players, they get nothing else for it.

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    Genshin community,

    Really? I get that communities for popular games can be a bit hit or miss, but communities for single player games are pretty chill. Competitive team games like the Source games you mentioned, League of Legends etc. are on a whole different level of toxic. They can’t even be compared.

    For something like Genshin the real problem is content creators. Much of the so called toxicity has little to nothing to do with the game itself and is more an issue with huge cults of personality clashing with each other. I think every popular game is going to fall victim to this going forward and you just have to learn to ignore it.

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      Yeah cults of personality + ipad kids on social media tend to be the large problem with genshin imo

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    Bro what did ff 14 do to you? who pissed in your chereos there? starcraft the elitism, the rage there is nothing that will ever come close to the levels of salt that that community produced