Fox News won’t bother mentioning this to their viewers.

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    Every time we elect a Republican president we have to start rolling the ball all the way back up the hill again. Every goddamn time.

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      Good news! Apparently a lot of excitingly new young progressives are mad we haven’t rolled it back up high enough and are refusing to help!

      Wait. Okay, not good news. Sorry.

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        Because they’re not rolling it up fast enough! Can’t you see? They just have to roll it faster and preferably all the way and then I’ll get excited and help. Yup. Until then I’ll be adding ankle weights to you too. And don’t forget it’s all your fault too.

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            Chips act, green energy, union empowerment, student debt, marijuana reform, etc etc etc. Anyone that says Biden isn’t doing anything is wilfully ignorant.

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                You’re doing exactly what the parent comments described. All you’re doing is crying when the ball is rolled as much as it can be while you’re (likely) kneecapping him because he doesn’t have a majority in the house.

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                  This is why Trump’s “dictator on day one” comment isn’t taken with the seriousness it needs to be.

                  People already think presidents are dictators.

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                Is actively being thwarted by Republicans at every turn.

                Plus, things take time to happen, even under ideal circumstances.

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              Marijuana is still illegal federally. Schedule 3 is not legalization.

              Forgiving student debt is not reform. A kid going to college today will still need to take on a ridiculous debt load and play the job/forgiveness lottery.

              Biden very publicly told Unions where to stick it.

              The green event stuff he funded is great but it’s not novel and he used it as a cover to protect the Big 3 Auto manufacturers from foreign EVs.

              The CHIPs act is actually okay. 1 out of 5 things but being performative is good though right? That’s the standard?

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                  More like he put the chock block in place to stop the roll and let the rich continue to fuck us before stepping side for the next Republican. I’m convinced he’s actively trying to lose this election between TikTok, EV restrictions, Gaza, and gaslighting people on the economy.

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                You’re crying that it’s not legal yet. Let’s forget that he asked dea to look at rescheduling it and that he forgave federal possession convictions.

                You’re crying he only did what he could and forgave debt and hasn’t gotten around to a Herculean overhaul of the entire post secondary system.

                You didn’t see the follow-up with unions. I’d give the Beau of the fifth column video but they’re impossible to find.

                You’re crying not novel enough, WTF. And you’re forgetting the green energy generation in the IRA.

                You’re crying chips being only decent?

                That was the easy stuff off the top of my head, and it’s just crying that nothing is ever good enough. Crying that it’s not fast enough. Nevermind that you’re (likely) kneecapping him with no majority in the house.

                You’re exactly the character described in the top comments.

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                  The federal possession forgiveness was a red herring. It only applies to people in federal prison who aren’t also in for “violent” offenses, which all the aggravated and intent charges count as.

                  So it ended up applying to like five dudes.

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                  That was the DEA looking at it. It went from schedule 1 to schedule 3. Which is a year in prison and a fine for possession.

                  I’m not against him doing harm reduction, but call it what it is. Don’t forgive debt and sell it as a reform. Winning the presidential lottery is not a reform.

                  The follow up? Where railroad workers are still under manned and required to work sick? Oh I’m sorry we got some real reforms for the IT guys in railroading. But the guys on the tracks, who were getting abused before are still getting abused in the exact same ways.

                  Green energy generation is solved. It’s already cheaper to build, maintain, and use than fossil fuels. Many states already routinely hit 100% renewable energy on their grid. So much so that the business crowd is trying to get home solar financial benefits reduced because the market is saturated.

                  This isn’t “nothing is good enough” it’s stop doing merely performative shit and blowing smoke up my ass. I gave him credit for CHIPs, but the IRA was just a corporate grift wrapped in green paper.

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            If your happy with Biden you’ve given up.

            Given that either Biden or Trump will be the president after the next election, voting for the obviously less harmful one is still a positive move.

            Not voting only gives the votes of Trump’s insane clown cult more power.

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                The strategy is logical to them; trump’s remaining voters are too dumb or selfish to leave, so trying to peal away biden support is their only plan.

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                  One of them was telling me, today, how he is donating money to JFK Jr because he is siphoning away so many votes from Biden. He acted like he was involved in some secret mission and was being so sneaky.

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            This is nonsense. If you believe that you should skip to violent revolution because you are not getting anywhere peacefully.

            I’m (edit:not) saying I think that’s a good idea. But if you are going to refuse to vote for the better guy because he’s not good ENOUGH then you were never going to vote at all, and the rest of us will go back to persuading the last 3 swing voters.

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            Nobody is happy with Biden. Do you want to continue pushing the boulder up the mountain at the pace we don’t like, or let go and see what happens to the town downhill?

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                  It’s not even anything to do with China. Bibi and Biden do not get along, and Bibi is doing everything he can to damage Biden in this issue hoping he gets Trump, so he can show everyone what an actual genocide looks like.

                  Biden is in an impossible situation - trying to keep some influence over the horror while also staying at an arms length for all the people who apparently think he is giving orders to the IDF

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                I don’t think it is taking accountability to flip a coin on whether or not an authoritarian demagogue insurrectionist who wanted to nuke random hurricanes and Iran should be in charge of the largest arsenals on the planet. Nor does adding additional corrupt regressives to SCOTUS teach the Dems a lesson, but it does put the very act of voting in jeopardy. It is myopic to throw the vote away.

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          They just don’t recognize that they’ll be crushed first when it rolls back. Maturity is learning not to commit all of your attention to the top of the mountain, but to always be mindful of the boulder.

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            Maturity is learning not to commit all of your attention to the top of the mountain, but to always be mindful of the boulder.

            That is beautiful and so very true.

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            I chuckled at the first commenter’s description of this as a boulder, but honestly the metaphor is pretty robust.

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            They are getting crushed anyway.

            Even without “both sides”, the situation worldwide is fucked. And “neither side” is going to change much. Yes, one is worse, but the better side still offers a bandaid over a gushing wound.

            So I don’t really blame them.

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              We just need to help them understand the system better. I voted third-party when was young, and many of my friends abstained. That was due to a lack of education about our government. It’s not about swaying them to vote one way or the other, but just to help them understand how our system functions. After that, if they want to vote for Trump with conviction, so be it. At least it’ll be an informed decision.

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                I will say it: fuck the system.

                The sooner it’s gone, the better.

                It won’t be pretty, but this isn’t leading us to paradise either, we are killing the planet and can’t even take the foot off the gas.

                We need a hard reset, and it’s coming. In the best scenario, the system is taken down before the enviromental collapse.

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                  Are you an accelerationist? Do you believe making things worse faster will lead to systemic change for the better?

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            Yep. Just vote and don’t expect to get to the top. We’re never getting there. We just vote and vote and vote and then eventually we die, pushing the same boulder the entire time.

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              It’s far from ideal, but the problem is that we let it roll back every 4-8 years. If Democrats consistently won due to progressive policies, the candidates would inevitably become more progressive to capture more of the constituency. Disengagement and disenfranchisement consistently cause the boulder to fall, leading to the lack of overall progress.

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                And because that doesn’t happen, I just have to assume that Americans aren’t nearly as progressive as everybody on the Internet thinks they are.

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                  Don’t underestimate the efficacy of voter disenfranchisement and disengagement. Republicans don’t need to prop up Trump. People who loath him will vote for him simply due to party loyalty. Discrediting Biden is all it takes for a win.

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          It’s like you’re stuck in the water with a riptide pushing you away from shore. A really strong swimmer would just swim against it, but you’re not, so you swim parallel to shore because then later you can swim back in. At least it’s not pushing you further out.

          Nope.

          Just decide to quit and drown. This is what the young “I’ll show you by not participating” crowd sounds like to me.

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            I’ve been swimming sideways to get out of the riptide for 24 years now. When do I get to start swimming back to shore?

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                  Well, yes. That’s the thing: If you give up, you drown, if you keep going parallel, you never know when the tide might turn. If you’re 24 (that’s how I interpret your previous comment), you’ve only had the option of voting in one presidential election so far. In that election, progressives completed the monumental task of voting out an incumbent proto-facist. And for all of Bidens flaws, there can’t be much doubt that a lot has been heading in the right direction. Of course, there’s still a huge task ahead, but the previous election shows that Trump can be kept out of office, and the past three years show that things can get better.

                  Step 1: Forgiving student loans, Step 2: Working to reform the system.

                  Step 1: Pardon certain drug-related crimes, Step 2: Work to reform drug laws.

                  Step 1: Massive infrastructure investments, Step 2: More investment in public goods

                  Step 1: EO’s to protect reproductive rights, Step 2: Legislation to do the same.

                  My point is this: Biden has shown that he is working to make progress, and that he can actually get stuff done. The problem is that there’s a whole lot that needs doing, much more than anyone can do in two terms. We need to keep getting the best option into office, and we need to spend the next four years to ensure that the best option next time is better than Biden is now. If Trump gets four years, I fear that we’ll have a near impossible job.

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        It would be nice if they actually rolled it back up at all instead of just putting a chock block in to keep it in place until a Republican comes along.

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        Which new young progressive lawmaker is refusing to push progressive reform? Or are you referring to voters abstaining?

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    Kudos to the paper for adding “trump appointed” in the headline - it’s relevant and too often the context is left out.

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    Yeh, but the late fees are good for people. Free market and free market. Drain the swamp etc. Just pay your debt on time. Or something, both side the same, yada yada.

    A great example of the current presidency trying to do something good for a lot of people.

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      It’s funny that the literal industry posterboy for not paying debts on time his entire career is now leading that crowd of “just pay your debts” 😂 He still isn’t doing it himself, even with other people putting up the money to pay his debts for him

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      In case anybody doesn’t already know this, the Chamber of Commerce is a non-governmental organization of private (and also publicly traded) business owners that just sounds like it’s part of the government.

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        This ruling is a major win for responsible consumers who pay their credit card bills on time and businesses that want to provide affordable credit,” U.S. Chamber of Commerce Litigation Center Counsel Maria Monaghan said in a statement.

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          It’s the same rationale they used when they tried to stop student loan forgiveness. But they accuse the left of having the mentality of crabs in a bucket.

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            Well, forgiving a bunch of debt without fixing the problem isn’t going to stop the leak. You can fully expect that bailing out debtors will result in lenders offering riskier loans they expect to be forgiven. With schools turning into a debt-selling industry, buying that debt from private lenders using public money would be robbing not only the tax payer, but also the next generation of the opportunity for an education. You can’t buy your way out of problem that isn’t caused by cost (hint: greed).

            All that to say, there should be debt caps on education before any kind of broad forgiveness. Or just federally subsidize up to a certain amount and then no one will go to pricier schools except those who can afford to without hardship.

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    The m9st fucked up thing of all is that he first tried to not make a ruling at all, stating that it should be ruled at Washington DC because there weren’t a ton of banks out of Texas. But they kicked it back to him and forced him to make a ruling on it.

    He kind of tried to be responsible/sensible.

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      He kind of tried to be responsible/sensible

      No, he tried to make someone else the bad guy, and ended up caving in as well.

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    It’s crazy how political courts have become. Or didn’t I notice it in the past?

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      Courts have always had a bias towards the status quo and moneyed interests. The Warren court was a historical aberration.

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      I don’t know if this is political or just downright croneyism. He made the ruling because somewhere someone is getting paid by debt companies who don’t want to lose money. This is beyond politics since its infected both sides of the aisle, this is just corruption. We need campaign finance reform and a ban on lobbying.

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      I think it’s worse than ever, but I’ve only got my own observations to go on and not a fair study.