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Twitter post by @DirtyTesLa: Thankful to have Cybertruck to help me with the real work and big loads 🙏 (image of Cybertruck with several bags of soil in the trunk)
Reply by @KralikLj: Hell boy that would fit in a bicycle. Way more carbon free than that wankpanzer. (image of cargo bicycle with several bags of soil strapped to the front)
One’s gotta feel so goofy bragging about their truck hauling a load that would fit in most any compact sedan
I mean that easily fits in my compact hatchback
Hatchbacks generally fit things like that more easily than sedans.
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Look at the username, and the platform
Why the fuck do people use that site?!?
That would fit in my wife’s fucking Camry man
Camry is not a small car
Sorry, my wife drives a cavalier. Not a Camry. I am not good with vehicle names. I am big dumb.
Exactly it’s a mid size sedan. A ton of shit would fit in it
Im pretty sure I could fenagle that into one of those old fiat mini cars from the 50s. Now if it the lawnmower engine that those things have can move me and the bags is another question.
I have walked more home in a cheap wagon.
It’s people committed to their egos unwilling to admit they purchased a dud from a con man.
I wanna know how much the first owner committed enough to chop off the fingers on their non-dominant hand gets in the lawsuit.
Really though, the NTSB and which ever other regulatory agencies can, should outlaw vehicles with this type of design (brodozer grills in-fucking-cluded).
Let the first batch become collectors items, but fucking stop them from making more super needlessly dangerous road weapons.
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I literally bought 8 bags of soil the other day and it wasn’t even close to filling the trunk of my Yaris
It’s a troll account
It’s not a troll account. https://youtube.com/@DirtyTesla
Maybe it was a troll post then. Someone I follow retweeted the post and the guy came into the thread showing it was a joke. He probably got tons of engagement from it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ah the classic “oh it was just a joke” strat.
Yeah, but loads like that are often dirty and spill shit everywhere. Plus, there’s all the bending and twisting to load and unload.
SOURCE: I used my tiny convertible for years to haul dirt, kayaks, lumber, whatever. It sucked and ruined the insides.
Sheet. Tarp. Or hell that little liner that’s already in the trunk you can take out and shake off
Now that’s a fair shout, though I just throw a plastic tarp down when I’m moving shit like that in my Golf. It’s a non- issue then.
I used plastic bins to haul bulk compost home in my hatchback and the interior survived just fine.
I appreciate what Len’s going for, but showing a Cybertruck with a load that would fit in a normal car, and ‘owning’ it by showing a bike carrying what appears to be half as much, is only going to give ammo to the dipshits with their massively oversized trucks.
‘Hey, bro! My Ford SuperMacho DonkeyDong Pavement Princess edition would fit the load from the Cybertruck and the load from the cargo bike. I could throw the bike on top too!’
Reframing it as ‘the Cybertruck’s so shitty that half the load will fit on a bike with no issues, and you don’t have to be seen driving a Cybertruck’ would probably work better 👍
The packages on the bike look far longer, it’s quite possible that it actually is the same load
They do look bigger, but it seems like the pink section is bigger, and the rest is the same size as the bags in the truck, making the bike’s cargo of four bags equivalent to about five of the truck’s bags.
That’s just a guess from a bad photo though.
My curiosity has been piqued, so here are the actual numbers:
- Cargo bike: 4 x 50 L = 200 L
- Cybertruck: 8 x 0.75 cubic feet = 170 L
There’s actually more on the bike. I love this post even more now
Unbelievable, and nice!
Oh, wow! Sometimes it feels nice to be wrong 😁
A liter of potting soil is roughly a kilo. Very few people will be able to move a bike with 200kilos on it unless the ground is perfectly even.
There are plenty of vehicles that are better for moving around that much mass than a Cybertruck is but a bike isn’t really one of them.
It’s a cargo bike: Low centre of gravity, adequate transmission for hauling heavy loads uphill, moving it isn’t the issue. You should be more worried about the actual load capacity: A good cargo bike, as in two wheels not four or a trailer configuration or something, usually maxes out at ~150kg load (including driver). Trikes about 250kg, quads or trikes with trailer at 500kg.
But then a kg of soil weighs more like 400g so we’re talking more like 80kg. Including driver you might be exceeding load capacity, but not by much (assuming obese people don’t ride bikes which I think is a fair assumption) it’s probably going to survive, especially if you’re careful around kerbstones and stuff. Those load limits are all calculated off some maximum drop distance, if you don’t drop your wheels then you can generally go much higher. The frame is very unlikely to break or bend, the axles would probably be the first to fail.
It looks like these bikes are 100% human powered. That’s the part I’m worried about.
I’m starting to get kind of old but I know how to ride a bike and I’m in pretty decent shape. In nice weather I ride for several miles at a time with my kids. I could move a heavily loaded bike for short distances but if I’m doing regular transportation with that for hours at a time I can forget about my knees.
The usual distances for these kinds of bikes are a couple of km max, once or twice a week. Big shopping trip if you’re living on the outskirts kind of deal, or smaller shopping trip and the kid rides in the cargo bucket. If you’re up for it sure you can also tour them, tent and sleeping bags don’t tend to weigh much and there’s ample of space.
Bikes for parcel deliveries etc. tend to be quads or trailer-trikes, also, electric. Noone is running a landscaping business with one of those bikes that still is, and probably always will be, a VW transporter with flatbed kind of deal.
I’m fat and out of shape. I know I wouldn’t be able to move that bike without some sort of motor assistance. You can 100% get a battery-powered engine to help, though.
Are you sure about that weight? I can’t say I’ve used a lot of potting soil in my life, but the first google results for it that have weights listed for the bag are all more like quarter to a third of a kilo per litre. That puts the weight of the load at less than 70kg, which is much more reasonable
I’m not sure at all. It’s just the first number I found online. Since a liter of water is a kilo it seemed reasonable to accept a liter of soil being a similar mass.
But shoot. I just went downstairs and checked the bags of soil we recently bought. 44 liters and 16 kilos. That’s about 0.36 kilos per liter, so you’re correct.
That said, when I had 4 of those sitting in the back of a Subaru hatchback you can definitely feel the accelerator get mushy. It probably wouldn’t be terrible to carry that much weight for short distances occasionally. Regularly riding long distances on less than perfect roads with that much load sounds pretty painful.
Reframing it as ‘the Cybertruck’s so shitty that half the load will fit on a bike with no issues, and you don’t have to be seen driving a Cybertruck’ would probably work better 👍
I fully agree with this, but I have to say I think it’s equivalently and succinctly encapsulated by “wankpanzer”.
Them: I pay $700/m on my truck loan so I can move a ton of mulch every year.
Me: I pay a $57 delivery fee so I can move six tons of mulch every year.
We are not the same.
Can rent a truck from home depot for like $20/hr. Most people are probably paying more than that a week in added fuel costs to drive a gas guzzler of a truck.
I think $700/m is unreasonably low for a Cybertruck, which makes your point even more. I don’t think you can get the financing details for one through the website, but I did it for an $80K Model X for 84 months in California and got $1,390/m.
The bags on the bike are bigger, i think. I think that is in fact the same load, or close to it.
Plus, the bike has more room to stack them upwards, and there are other bike models that have an actual frame for the cargo area.
They are. If you look at the comments here, skua got the higher quality images and worked out the details:
https://kbin.social/m/fuckcars@lemmy.ca/t/955361/-/comment/6141707
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Yeah they should’ve have gone for
I’ve seen your mom take bigger loads than that
There are already posts in this thread basically doing that…
Wankpanzer has now been added to my lexicon.
My takeaway as well
An open source gift to the world.
I know right.
Meanwhile in a real truck…
This image broke me, 95% of the trucks I see everyday are used as commuter vehicles with nothing in the bed. And the ones that do are hauling a single sheet of plywood. I plum forgot people use trucks to move stuff.
Couldn’t you do that on a cybertruck as well?
The most similar bed for regular trucks is about 14 cu ft more than in the CT (about 70cu ft vs about 56 cu ft) but technically yes you could load a Cybertruck like that, although I wouldn’t want to see the sloped sides after a loader dumped a couple of yards in it…
Yards? What the hell? You measure volume in yards now?
Yes and it’s as annoying and stupid as it sounds
The cubic yard is common among contractors in the US. You buy concrete in yards
A cubic yard is about 30% less than a cubic meter. And a ton is like 10% less than a metric ton.
Water volumes in reservoirs are measured in acre*feet. By comparison a cubic yard is pretty sensible. And for comparison if you know of any big lakes near you, a million acre feet is about 20% smaller than a cubic kilometer.
You got some special edition yards or something?
A cubic meter is 30% more than a cubic yard, meters are longer than yards.
A tonne (metric) is 1000kg, about 2200 pounds. A ton, often called a short ton, is 2000 pounds. A long ton is 2240 pounds. A long ton is 1.6% more than a metric ton.
Considering the insane mathematical conversions you people have to constantly do, I wonder why the USA isn’t full of mathematical geniuses?
Ah right, because scientists use metric.Nah we just add another dimension to cubes in us customary. So it’s 1yd^4
Yeah I was backwards, but either way if you’re estimating in units of “truck beds”, they’re close enough to be interchangeable.
But then you’ll have to pour like 4 cans of barkeeper’s friend all over the car to clean it up immediately after
Meanwhile in Europe in a vehicle with a smaller footprint:
An American mind cannot comprehend this
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Yeah so… Both these things exist in North America… I mean, do you really believe we don’t have tractors when there’s a chunk of territory a third of the size of Europe that’s plains?
Of course I know tractors are a thing in the US
But in Europe we don’t see many SUVs, simply because if you need to haul a lot of things you get a van. And if you don’t you get a normal car.
An SUV simply isn’t efficient at anything. It is the worst of both worlds.
The tractor is more about when you need to haul even more stuff.
Anything I can fit in my Miata is not a ‘big load’. Although there are always the people that like to go above and beyond…
I have an album of collected photos of people transporting goofy/large stuff in Miata’s.
Please share highlights
Here’s some good ones.
These are fantastic.
That last one is “tires are the enemy” material.
Holy shit that dog one scared me ahahaha thank you for sharing these
Pretty sure that’s a pig.
lmfao you’re right, much less weird. I thought that was a taxidermy dog at first.
That would be a whole pig. I’d imagine it’s for a BBQ but I could be wrong…
It’s just a little baggy, it’s still good, it’s still good.
I mean, I hope it’s for a BBQ.
Oh god, those poor exhaust pipes… and side panels…
I think I’m going to refer to pick ups and SUVs exclusively as “wankpanzers” from now on
My vocabulary was enhanced today too.
Brain enrichment achieved.
Call me crazy, but I think original op, the one with the cyber truck, was actually making a joke
I also think it’s more of a sarcastic remark about size of the cargo bed, if you can even call it a cargo bed.
The account is literally called Dirty Tesla. This must be one of the biggest whooshes in history.
Funny seeing this, I just got back from taking 40L of planting soil home in the back of my (non-cargo) bike. It’s doable, for sure.
Trailers are super convenient things to have around for the occasional appliance-shopping and garden centres.
A lot cheaper to keep around than a $80,000 truck which requires insurance too.
Panzerwanken. Perfect.
As a German, I laughed at the image of a group of drunk tanks in my mind.
It could also mean that you are drunk and try to balance on a tank. Could be a sport.
New favourite word haha
My vocabulary improved by at least two skill levels today.
Lol, I don’t know about a bicycle but I routinely toss six bags of dirt in the back of my Honda Accord and my ex- boss has a trailer for his Corolla.
Also, presumably he got it to the checkout at the store in a grocery cart, he (I am making an assumption here that this is a dude) has to know you don’t need a truck to move it.
I’m pretty sure I could fit those in the trunk of my 2010 Aveo.
Those would comfortably fit in the back of my aunt’s MINI with the rear seats folded down
Thankful to have Cybertruck
Isn’t that the most basic feature of a car?
Reminds me of the people thankful for Facebook so they can talk to friends, when what enabled that really was the Internet and Facebook just created an app incompatible with any existing messaging standard.That’s a big load? That‽ That’ll fit into any car.
You just wanted to use an interrobang didn’t you?
I’m not going to start using that symbol.
I’m in the unfortunate position of not living in a place to practically use that bicycle, and being unable to afford a cybertruck. I wouldn’t buy one, even if I could afford it, but I’d like to be in that position.
tbh such kind of bicycle will hardly be practical anywhere
I see them around here (Germany) and they seem quite practical, although ones with 3 or more wheels are most popular here. Especially for such heavy loads.
Yeah you’d want it on a trailer or side bags. Maybe a handlebar box. It’s definitely doable. I saw multiple bikes tonight that could do it at the shop I contribute at.
Bakfietsen have been around in the Netherlands for as long as I can think. Some of them are so large that they’re used as a market stand. You can’t really get much in side bags and most trailers aren’t designed to carry heavy loads.
Downvoted by delusional people who don’t live in the real world.
I get that they want bikes to be the solution to everything but stick a heavy toolbox on a bike and ride uphill, in the rain, after a heavy day working. Sure it’s fine for someone doing local runs on an open schedule with small loads but for most people that’s not how life works.
I hate driving, love bikes and agree we need to transition to better transport systems but pushing absolutely absurd non-answers is just going to make everyone laugh at the idea and dismiss it as stupid. We’ve had the same issue in the green movement so many times, anyone old enough in the uk will remember when we had an green party with an amazing platform pushing investment in solar, localisation, cycling infrastructure, and loads of good stuff then instead of talking about it every time they got platformed they talked about yogic flying and healing energy. Even my mum a total woo loving hippy was angry at them about that.
Something else they forget is that not everyone can cycle, i used to cycle all over the place until my knee injury and while even at my peek I never would have been able to get that heavy load up the hill on the way back from my local garden center I can only just do it now on a lightweight bike after years of strength rebuilding.
If you want meaningful change you need to be sensible about it so other people know you can be trusted.
(And yes I understand the yogic flying was coming from an actually sensible place when you get down to it, I was a child enrolled in similar mind and body fitness programs based on the same idealism but every time it was mentioned they’d talk about superpowers instead if saying ‘obviously it’s just exercise and breathing with mental clarity exercises combined, we think this is missing from most peoples lives and wish to enable access and understanding but recognize its only a small step in transitioning to an ecologically, emotionally and aocially suatainable way of life, which is our primary goal.’
Not a custom job so there must be demand for it, therefore it must be practical somewhere.
For me, personally, I prefer pulling a cart instead of pushing with all the weight on your handlebars\turning.
Well, I guess that some people just like to put big loads on their back and post it on the internet… Who am I to judge…
Are we still doing ‘Phrasing?’
Can we just officially call it the Wankpanzer? That’s too good.
