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    Imagine Israel, of all countries, crying to the UN, of all organizations, about a purported “flagrant violation of narional sovereignty, international law and Security Council resolutions.”

    I laughed out loud when I read that. As if that isn’t exactly what Israel does virtually on a daily basis, and has done for decades now, and while thumbing their nose at the UN the entire time.

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      The best part is the UN charter clearly states that when a country is attacked, it has aright to self defense. Let’s watch Israel talk their way around that as they vindicate Iran and incriminate themselves.

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              Do Israel’s “previous” attacks on Palestine justify the Palestinians attacking Israel in the present or future, more or less out of nowhere, if they feel like it?

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                Can you explain to me how a pogrom can ever be justified? Because that was what Palestinian terrorists did on October 7, under the applause of a worrying number of people. It was the kind of pogrom Jews have been experiencing for millennia.

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                  A better example of a pogrom might be the killing of over 30,000 civilian Palestinians and simultaneously starving them to death with blockade following 75 years of occupation and a century of colonialism. Proportionality matters and it doesn’t favor your argument

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                    Yeah. For as inhuman as it was, “pogrom” doesn’t at all fit with the terrorist attack in October, but it fits perfectly to what Israel is currently doing in Gaza.

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                    At least update those false talking points you are repeating to the current year.

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                  I don’t at all think attacks on innocent Israelis are justified, no. I think the perpetrators of October 7th should get what’s coming to them and are most likely destined for hell.

                  I’m pointing out that your logic would justify sudden attacks on Israel or the US by the Palestinians – say, on October 6th if they had bombed the embassy and killed some generals and some random civilians – because of “previous.”

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          One need not pretend something that is already factually accurate. This was a retaliation and direct response for Israel bombing Iran’s consulate in Syria on April 1. This is why Iran targeted and struck the Negev air force base ( which contains US F-35s used to bomb Gaza ) as that is the base from which that attack originated. This is also why Iran says it now considers the matter “concluded” and warned the US and Israel against further reprisals. Those are facts and not “pretending” so if you are going to “pretend” this isn’t true and try to distort the matter I’m not interested.