Hashtags do not replace groups.

No one moderates them. They’re easy to hijack and spam. And there’s simply no permanence to them.

Which is why, if you actually want to discuss something, it’s better to tag a group. For example, if you want to be part of an actual PC gaming community on the Fediverse, it’s better to tag @pcgaming@lemmy.ca than #pcgaming.

This needs to be common knowledge because people new to the Fediverse do not know about groups. Hell, I’d say people who have had Mastodon accounts for years still don’t know. And that’s a shame.

@fediverse@lemmy.world

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    Communities are for Lemmy and hashtags are for Mastodon.

    They each make sense in their proper context.

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        I have heard of the opposite. Mastodon users can see and comment on lemmy posts, but i have yet to discover how to view mastodon post from lemmy.

        If it is indeed possible can you or anyone elaborate how to?

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          The mastadon user posting the thing needs to tag the Lemmy community in their post and then it will show up like any other post on Lemmy. You wouldn’t even know it’s from Mastodon unless they said so in the post.

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            You can usually tell it’s from Mastodon because it’s got a couple dozen hashtags scattered throughout the post and a dozen more users and communities tagged.

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          You have misread their comment and understood it backwards. AP’s saying people on Mastodon are engaging in Lemmy discussions.

          There is no way to follow Mastodon users from Lemmy. Lemmy simply does not work that way.

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            Hrmmm… at a (strong) guess, PieFed does. You can follow anything, like a community, post, comment (even ones you do not own), or a user account. You would get Notifications triggered every time they post something, I believe. Including comments as well as posts, but again just a guess.

            It’s a great way to follow a low-volume something or other! At higher volumes… it can get a bit much, but at least the tools are available, and you can always wipe all Notifications at once if need be.

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            It’s not that Lemmy couldn’t allow you to follow Mastodon users, the technology allows it. It’s just not high on the priority list to actually develop.

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          The post you’re commenting on was made on a selfhosted instance of akkoma.social, so federation across softwares definitely works.

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        No one said you can’t. They said they make sense in their own contexts. The interface is different. Plus I don’t need my inbox blown up with notifications from a dozen Mastodon users tagging me unnecessarily.

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          No, what was said was that “Groups are for Lemmy and hashtags are for Mastodon”.

          That is to say that Groups are not for Mastodon, so Mastodon users should be content with hashtags.

          But Mastodon users use Lemmy groups from Mastodon, and better group integration is already being planned by Mastodon themselves.

          Ergo, groups are for Mastodon.

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            No, what was said was that “Groups are Lemmy and hashtags are for Mastodon”.

            …no what? You didn’t contradict what I said. There was no “can’t” in that statement.

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        You’re not the first to suggest it, but I still haven’t seen anyone do more than linking one from the other. This feels as inconsequential as posting a Twitter screenshot on Reddit. Is there a deeper integration possible?

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            I guess it’s cool that you can if you want, but if I’m searching Mastodon I want content on Mastodon, not Lemmy and vice versa.

            I still don’t see the point.

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            Can you be more specific? I don’t see anything.

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                Isn’t that just a Piefed photo stream?

                I still don’t see any cross-app integration except simple linking.

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                  Nope, not a Piefed photo stream. All those photos (so far) originate either from Akkoma or Pixelfed.

                  It looks “just” like a Piefed photo stream because I’m sending photos there. 😊

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          Someone on Mastadon could reply to a comment here directly from there and you may not notice unless you look at their instance.

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          @deegeese @atomicpoet hi, this thread literally popped into my mastodon timeline. Only noticed this is not originally from mastodon because you mentioned it and because you don’t mention on replies by default. Hope it works as an answer for deeper integration

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            Could you please explain how a Lemmy thread is showing up in Mastodon? I use it too but never see Lemmy there.

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              You could subscribe to the Lemmy community by following e.g. @fediverse@lemmy.world from mastodon. If you’re familiar with https://a.gup.pe/ , it’s exactly the same from mastodon. The difference is that with lemmy you can also access without passing through mastodon.

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              @deegeese I don’t remember why this one appeared exactly, but they appear pretty much like mastodon posts: if there’s a user, hashtag or community (recently discovered this) I follow or someone I follow boosted it.

              The main difference I noticed is that non-mastodon posts and accounts don’t appear in recommended, so you have to actively search for their full handle, that’s it for the most part. Still don’t get exactly how communities work, only that I can be a part of but not create or moderate from mastodon (maybe? Idk).