• Lichtblitz@discuss.tchncs.de
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    9 months ago

    This argument is extremely disingenuous. The Republicans claim that a president has immunity unless investigated and impeached by Congress. And this is exactly what they are fruitlessly flailing around, trying to do. So this is not the gotcha the meme claims it is.

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      “A president of the United States must have full immunity, without which it would be impossible for him [or] her to properly function. Any mistake, even if well intended, would be met by almost certain indictment by the opposing party at term end.

      “Even events that ‘cross the line’ must fall under total immunity, or it will be years of trauma trying to determine good from bad.”

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/18/trump-claims-total-complete-immunity-president-truth-social

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        9 months ago

        Please always add the person who is quoted. These are Trump’s words, while we are discussing what many Republicans are publicly claiming. Of course Trump wants to go way further.

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          9 months ago

          4 years ago your distinction may be justified, but today trump does speak for the republican party. A significant part of them does support him and agrees with his views.

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          He is the person they all chose to represent themselves, so, yes, that is what the large majority of Repubs agree with.

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          9 months ago

          There is no way in hell those are Trump’s words. He couldn’t write something that coherent, straightforward and understandable if his life depended on it. At least not anymore, as perhaps he was once more coherent.

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            Probably Steven Miller. Most of the coherent awful shit seems to come from that Nazi fucks brain nowadays. Pretty sure he’s one of McConnell’s horcruxes.

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        9 months ago

        From criminal prosecution. Noone is arguing the POTUS can’t be impeached. We shit on republicans for being ignorant and uninformed, but you’re either being ignorant and uninformed or intentionally pedantic.

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      9 months ago

      But with immunity, the president could simply assassinate anyone in congress who would vote to impeach

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        9 months ago

        That’s fine, they know a Dem wouldn’t do that. When a Repub eventually does execute members of Congress, they assume they’ll be spared.

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        He had two impeachment trials, and two acquittals, he was impeached twice and essentially found not guilty. Had he been found guilty in an impeachment trial that presumably would be the penalty to face compared to criminal charges. I am not arguing that it is a correct position, only that its the stated position.

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      9 months ago

      It scares me for our future that you have so many downvotes for speaking openly and truthfully, while so many incorrect and nonsense takes are nothing but dozens of upvotes (ie Trump is barred from running because its his third term). That this platform seems to skew substantially more educated than most and seems to react this negatively to truth and positively to misinformation actually has me hoping I’m interacting with bots as the alternatives are scarier.