after St. Louis police unions instructed officers to publicly display The Punisher’s insignia (the mark of a lawless, fascist murderer) the comic book community was quick to point out the stupidity, and the frankly horrifying message sent by supposed peace officers endorsing a maniac. So it’s a good thing The Punisher personally confirms he hates cops who see him as a friend… making every cop who “wears his mark” or calls themselves a “fan” look like shameful fool in the process.

– Andrew Dyce, The Punisher Confirms: He HATES Cops Who Support Him

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    Is he fascist?

    I don’t read a lot of punisher comics.

    To be perfectly clear about my experience with this character, I have watched the thomas jane punisher movie, which is a straight up vengeance movie.

    But I never got the impression the punisher was fascist.

    He doesn’t seem like a pro-dictatorship kind of guy.

    Is he, in the comics?

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        9 months ago

        Grammar is funny that way it could be interpreted your way or it could be interpreted as “fascist who murders”

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        I would guess you misread that, it seems like a grammatically unlikely interpretation given the context.

        In the article, the phrase is describing the punisher in light of the police worship of a " lawless, fascist murderer", so I would expect both of those adjectives to be referring to the punisher.

        And I don’t think the punisher is known for killing fascists either, although I’m willing to defer to someone who has read any of the comics.

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      No he’s not. The point is that cops wearing his symbol are fucking idiots. The punisher is a lawless vigilante who hates cops. Cops - an organization created to enforce laws - have no business wearing the symbol of a lawless vigilante, and they’re stupid idiots for wearing the symbol of one that hates their whole organization.

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        Read Punisher: Max. They did, I think. Works with and likes cops in that one. Very fascist tone.

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        No doubt cops idolizing the punisher are fascists and idiots, i just think it’s a strikingly prominent, inaccurate title and focus for the article.

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      Depends which comics. People say it’s ironic cops use the Punisher skull, they say the character hates cops. These people never read Punisher: MAX. It’s not ironic, it’s right on brand. Plus people that read it in like 2008 are sometimes 30 year old cops now.

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        Oh, thank you for this, I was waiting for someone who knew anything about the comics to chime in. I’m going to check that out immediately.

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      Wasn’t his whole thing that he takes the extra steps to stop people from ever doing bad things again? I’ve also not read punisher though.

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        Yeah but the extra steps are just shooting them in the face or snapping their necks.

        Can’t commit a crime if your face was eaten by piranhas

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        Depends on the writer. Sometimes he’s a contractor for the American government, he’s been a Frankenstein and an Iron Man, sometimes an outright fascist, sometimes killing fascists.

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        Cool, then I’ll just say yes and we can both pretend we know what we’re talking about hahaha.