• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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      I will speak to my fellow caucasians and say, “if you’re offended, lighten the fuck up, honky.”

    • remotedev@lemmy.ca
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      I think the way it works is someone who is not a member of that group tells you it’s offensive

    • watson387
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      He got it wrong though. The shirt should says “CRACKERS”.

        • watson387
          13·
          11 kuukautta sitten

          Me either, but it’s actually meant to be offensive whereas Caucasians is just a classification.

        • RGB3x3@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          11 kuukautta sitten

          You would be if they had stolen your home and pranced around in a caricature costume of you through the stadium they built after bulldozing your land

          • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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            11 kuukautta sitten

            Yes, but that’s the point. They didn’t do that to white people, so white people are in no position to be offended. Including me. Which is why I’m not only not offended, but find that highly appropriate.

            • RGB3x3@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              11 kuukautta sitten

              What is happening when white people are like “I’m not offended by this” is to minimize the offense that native Americans feel about the same thing.

              As if to say “I’m not offended, why are they?”

      • Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world
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        Cracker isn’t an epithet that native Americans have ever used though.

        Paleface would be the matching slur to redskin.

        • watson387
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          11 kuukautta sitten

          That works. I couldn’t think of pale face at the time, but you got my point.

    • angrymouse@lemmy.world
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      The problem with the football teams is that usually the name of team is the name of a group of ppl that was almost exterminated and their descendants still pay the price and nobody cares while their name is used as something cool. Just using the name should not be that offensive.

      • scutiger@lemmy.world
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        11 kuukautta sitten

        Except redskins is offensive. It’s not the name of a group of people, it’s an epithet describing them.

          • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
            114·
            11 kuukautta sitten

            Were you going to show us this poll or were you just going to expect us to believe that quote of yours isn’t one you just made up?

            • smooth_tea@lemmy.world
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              11 kuukautta sitten

              I like to omit the source sometimes just to draw out lazy comments like yours. It really shows that you’re not that interested but just want to argue. It’s the title of an article from one of the most prominent newspapers out there, it’d be the first result if you simply pasted it in Google, but rather than save yourself the embarrassment, you chose this route.

              Swing and a miss.

              The article is even better than the title.

              Among the Native Americans reached over a five-month period ending in April, more than 7 in 10 said they did not feel the word “Redskin” was disrespectful to Indians. An even higher number — 8 in 10 — said they would not be offended if a non-native called them that name.

                • smooth_tea@lemmy.world
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                  11 kuukautta sitten

                  This is not about whether I’m lying or not, it’s about you preferring to stay ignorant, which proves the point that you don’t really care about the subject. If you want to close your eyes and pretend it’s nighttime, then it’s not my job to convince you otherwise.

    • SCB@lemmy.world
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      11 kuukautta sitten

      Yeah the only issue here is “Caucasians” is roughly similar in emotional weight to “native Americans.”

      Shirt should say like, “crackers” or something

      • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
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        11 kuukautta sitten

        Cracker doesn’t even have enough contextual weight. Whitey is about as heavy as I can think of and even that doesn’t carry much weight for the people it should.

        Source: I’m literally whiter than Casper the friendly ghost, and I actually care. The Americans I’m talking about just don’t care.

      • TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        61·
        11 kuukautta sitten

        Even that word has no pull nowadays. I don’t know any white people that are even bothered by it in the least. I am one half Caucasian and I know for sure that it has no affect at all on me. I think it’s a kind of funny word, actually. We need something with more spice to it for sure. Mayo monkies? Snow roaches? Marshmallow minions?

      • Chakravanti@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        11 kuukautta sitten

        Look, we nerds have taken that term over. It means you’re a digital sabotuer and theft. You invade other people’s space all on the basis that some other asshole promised to handle their safety, became a billionaire and never did jack fucking squat to stop anyone from taking advantage of his backdoor to “your” computer.

        That and no one listened to the messiah predicting this and explaining how to really be safe on something that can actually be your computer.

        So if it has a Windoze and an Apple on the picture and says exactly that…

    • HiddenLayer5@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      11 kuukautta sitten

      The issue is a lot of people would completely fail to get the message and want to buy all three hats.

  • Red_October@lemmy.world
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    11 kuukautta sitten

    I’m all for it. I want the mascot to be just a normal guy named “Steve.” It’s just some white guy in a cardigan. His catch phrase is “Hi, I’m Steve, nice to meet you.”

    When the players score a touchdown, the fans all chant “Hi, I’m Steve.” The customary celebration is for the player to mime a normal handshake.

    • MataVatnik@lemmy.world
      24·
      11 kuukautta sitten

      I read that a more apt metaphore would be a shirt that says Paleface, with a skinny white dude on it. Cause this shirt actually goes hard.

      • EtherWhack@lemmy.world
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        11 kuukautta sitten

        I see ‘paleface’ more as a response to something morbidly shocking versus ID’ing a group of people. Similar, if the original were ‘redface,’ it would be being uncontrollably angry.

        Wouldn’t swapping in white to have whiteskins, fit better?

    • isthingoneventhis@lemmy.world
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      11 kuukautta sitten

      “red necks” is usually referring to a specific lot of folk, whereas the original context (of what this is poking at) “referred” of an entire group of people, so saying “caucasians” is more 1:1.

      • Delphia@lemmy.world
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        11 kuukautta sitten

        Yeah, that was my thought too.

        There are dumb right wingers who would wear it “see theres nothing offensive about this” as opposed to “See how fucking weird this is”

  • Mango@lemmy.world
    145·
    11 kuukautta sitten

    Can we do this? I want this team. It’s gotta be full of burly black guys though. They’re clearly better at football. I would start watching football.

  • sarmale@lemmy.zip
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    Why is caucasian used to refer to the white race, isnt that for georgians or something?

    • namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev
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      11 kuukautta sitten

      Misrepresenting the target group is just an added bonus. It’s like referring to all indigenous people as “indians” - even if they were from India (which they’re not), it’s just taking a blanket term and making them all seem like they’re the same. At least that’s why it’s even funnier in this context.

      But generally speaking, when people unironically use the term to refer to all whites, well, that just shows that they don’t really understand the meaning of the term they are using.

      • sarmale@lemmy.zip
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        11 kuukautta sitten

        Idk, looked at wikipedia, Like why is a whole big race reffered as caucasian

    • drathvedro@lemm.ee
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      Yeah, it’s a term from an outdated racial theory that got into mainstream language. Still keeps weirding me out every time I see it. In Russia where I grew up, actual people from Caucasus region are still often treated and portrayed in media as “black” for being generally slightly darker than slavs. It’s disgusting. But, the populations in Caucasus region are actually very diverse. Like, for example, just talking about the skin color, the Azerbaijanis are generally fairly tan, but then quite a few of them are whiter than snow, and that’s the diversity within just one ethnic group of which there are few dozens. So I find it just as weird to call white people Caucasian (and people of Caucasus just “white”) as it’d be calling them Romanis or Tuaregs (or Jews) for how meaningless that’d be.