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    One piece is the definition of “It’s the journey, not the destination.” Nothing the One Piece could actually be would be worth 23 years worth of content hyping it up.

    (I myself am still a fan of the “one-(head)-piece” that make someone a king, but has to be an item that has been around since the first season theory. Gee, I wonder what that head-piece could be?)

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        Yea luffy’s hat. It’s been a while since I read the Manga, I could have sworn gold d Roger had the straw hat when he got executed but it wasn’t present in the live action show.

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          Roger had the hat in his rookie years. He later gave it to shanks when he got himself a cooler hat (we just recently learned when).

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      Gol D Roger had the straw hat way before visiting Laugh tale. That would be worse than “It was all a dream”, or “The one piece was the friends you made along the way”. Both of which have been debunked by Oda.

      Personally I subscribe to the theory that the World Government is whom split the world into 4 pieces during the Void Century. Whatever the One Piece is - it will have the power to rejoin the 4 oceans.

      It would solve every dream of all the Straw Hat Pirates. It would literally make the world One Piece again.

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        Favourite theory I heard was that the One Piece refers to all of the oceans being joined by destroying the strip of land in the centre of the cross shaped continent. They foreshadow it by having every character dream about the different types of fish all co-habiting in the same ocean.

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          Yes that’s what I’m talking about.

          The destruction/removal of the Red Line which is the Mountainois ridges that go North to South round the world. But you would still have the Grand (East to West) that would prevent all 4 oceans from meeting.

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        Well it has to be something that’s “time gated” for lack of a better term, when roger went they were “to early”

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          Could be a log-pose that isn’t synched up.

          Could be the Poneglyphs told of a person who obviously was not Roger. Gol was not the greedy, selfish type.

          Could be that the Poneglyph required something Roger did not have like the Hito Hito no Mi: Nika fruit >!- the same as JoyBoy!<. Maybe it required the power of Poseidon (who wasn’t born yet), Pluto, Uranus, or the Noah ship. Possibly all of them.

          !Roger was dying by the time he saw the One Piece.!<

          There’s a lot of reasons he didn’t, or couldn’t do anything with it.

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            When I read that I thought it was clearly talking about Shirahoshi not being born yet. Never occurred to me it could not be that.

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    It should be illegal to recommend shows with more than 1000 episodes.

    If you like it fine, but I saw it and the pacing is straight up horrible even if the worldbuilding is neat.

    There are battles that take literally more than 5 hours without counting the intros and recaps. Even my longest D&D battle was shorter, and those are freaking turn based.

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        Thank you for posting this. I gave up on the show a week ago around episode 600. Marineford legitimately felt like they spit in my face and told me my time was worthless with how many cuts of “he’s almost there”. The show looks like it gets interesting again afterwards but Marineford legit just sucked the will out of me to continue watching. I was thinking of looking up a fan edit to just get the cliff notes and this is perfect!

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          I feel ya bud, I always wanted to watch One Piece but it was no fun.

          Until I found One Pace. Be sure to use a VPN when downloading via torrent though!

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      Not for nothing, but the manga is paced much better and can be read legally, easily, and digitally for a $3/month subscription. Took me like a month and a half to read the whole thing.

      You’ve made your opinions clear about long recommendations, so take it or leave it. You were interested once before, though, and it might be worth checking out.

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        Yep it’s the same with a lot of these super long series, they are much more digestible and addictive in manga form.

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      This is my same thought with soap operas. Not that I want to but how would you even get into a show that had been running 5 times a week for 30+ years?

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      I tried to watch the ocean cut of Naruto, which basically edits each arc down, cutting out unnecessary flashbacks and recaps, along with intros and intros, making it into basically a series of films.

      It’s still 40 films worth of content and 3+ hours per film sometimes (I think, it’s been a while), and the pacing is still absolutely fucked which is a symptom of basically every episodic anime when binged.

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      I had to watch the first 40 episodes on 3.5x and that shit was still boring. I dropped it after 40 lmao

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          one piece fans will lock you in a room until you get through alabasta and can answer a 100 question multiple choice exam

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          The hype around One Piece saying “guys it’s really good trust me you should watch it.” That sentiment came from the Internet and one of my coworkers so I gave it a chance and watched around 40 episodes.

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        Not that i’ve seen any of them but 3 others come to mind

        Doraemon, Crayon Shin-Chan, Detective Conan

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          Huh. I never knew Shin Chan or Detective Conan went on. I saw them on Adult Swim and figured those 20eps were it.

          I’m gonna have to go to find where I can watch the rest. Thank you.

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            Conan is terrible for this. The author has said that he already has the ending planned out, but wont use it until the series loses enough popularity to be cancelled. Canonically, the story only takes place for one year, but has had multiple Christmas specials, gone from pagers to flip phones to smart phones and has had more murders than Japan’s official yearly average.

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    As a huge #OnePiece fan, I was enjoying it at the get go, but I have to admit that there were some moments where I felt it was slow, but I kept watching because of the way fans talked about it, the moment I felt completely in love with the series was at Arlong Park Arc (ep 31-44), especially with the episode 37, for others is later or early in the story.

    I understand it is scary to get started after seeing the amount of chapters and episodes it has, it takes time commitment, it’s been almost two years since I watched the first episode, and it has been an incredible experience. You have multiple options to start.

    • Read the manga. The source material. Official website to read the first saga for free

    • Watch the anime. Fans complain about the pacing, it was annoying for me at certain moments, but for me, most of the time I didn’t notice it. It has the advantage of being more accessible, I would say, most people will likely watch on a streaming service with the dub in their native language. Watch One Piece on Crunchyroll

    • Watch One Pace. Fan edit of the anime. This is a project that takes the episodes of the anime, and edit them to make them more truthful to the source material by removing filler scene, long reaction shots, stretched fights, fixing certain errors from the original anime (especially from the old ones, like color schemes since they didn’t know or errors that made the final version probably because of deadlines of being a weekly anime since 1999) and removing censorship from certain censored scenes. You can download the episodes by torrent or watch through telegram. Their website claims it 45% faster to watch than the original. One Pace official website

    • Watch One Piece Live Action. Even though it has certain controversial changes that I don’t agree with, I loved how it opened the door for a lot of people to read the manga, watch the anime or One Pace. Watch One Piece Live Action on Netflix

    #OnePace #OnePieceLiveAction #Manga #Anime

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        Huh, so they didn’t fuck it up like they did with all the other anime adaptions? Neat.

        Edit: so anyway, I started watching it last night and IMO it’s better than the anime!

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          Nope, it’s a really great adaptation. The changes they made were mostly to make it work better in live action, and a few story changes I actually really liked since they improved on aspects of some characters back stories.

          And really, it’s juts a lot of fun. My girlfriend who doesn’t watch any anime absolutely loved the live action version, and is impatient for season 2.

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        I had a good time watching too, not saying it was bad, just I didn’t like certain changes, but I understand why they had to do it, it is a different medium and if I’m not wrong, they didn’t have much time.

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          I just wanted the Krieg battle! That was hype when it first came out, damn I’m old as dirt

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    Shonen manga is notorious for having winding stories with no narrative endgame planned.

    Even the DBZ anime at 291 episodes is brutally long and drawn out, with a narrative that obviously repeats itself to the point of self-parody.

    Everybody is gonna enjoy what they want to enjoy, but cmon.

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      I just rewatched Yuyu Hakusho and it became obvious real quick nothing planned from arc to arc. Even when the creators want a clean end, their editor will push for more if it’s popular enough. I can respect Demon Slayer for committing to the final villain that was setup in the beginning.

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    One Piece is great, but it is a big investment. Worth it IMO. If you’re not sure, watch the Netflix live action. It’s only 8 episodes and is pretty faithful to the original.

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    A lot of these types of media have a really great premise and initial story before it devolves into every Shonen stereotype ever and way the hell too long and specific arcs.

    Like One Piece’s original formula of sea travel, pirate action, and island story worked great. It only suffered from Toei’s asanine pacing for the Anime.

    Now it’s basically 99% Island and nothing else. No one even acts like pirates anymore, and each Island lasts so long it actually gets boring to watch or read.

    The real crime here is that each chapter is about 15 pages, with currently 1101 chapters, yet the each anime episode is 24 minutes long and there are currently 1087 episodes.

    Toei has milked this content harder than their infinite stalling in DBZ.

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      In America its most notorious usage must be a woman’s bathing suit that is connected from bottom to top in some way.

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    Like the Bible, I maybe haven’t read every single word, there was the title, something something with a ship and a cross, then a damn long register, but I think, I got the essence. It’s a boring antediluvian scam, kinda like Elon has written it…

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    Chapter 1176?

    The quality of the anime has some serious dips, but the manga is absolutely god tier from start to finish (or current latest chapter).

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      Nah, the manga has its issues too. They are just minimal compared to the anime. Oda will sometimes easily spend 10 chapters moving characters around just to setup some specific scene he wants to draw, then spend another 10 moving them back to where they need to be to continue the story. Half of wano was just moving chairs.

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    INB4 they jump the shark, finds One Piece, but now all of a sudden there’s a Second Piece.

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    I think it’s more like a soap opera to the Japanese, that’s a guess though. It started in 1998 or 99, which means if you were 5 when you started watching it, you’re in your upper 20’s which is wild. I think there are people that cut out all of the filler of the anime that you can watch and the netflix adaption is about 4 years’ worth.

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      It’s called One Pace, it’s a fan edited version that takes out filler and overly long panning shots etc. to make the pacing of the anime match the manga more closely.

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        I realize that’s something I really like about unvoiced JRPGs, and manga; my reading pace dictates the scene’s pace, and I’m a decently fast reader. I’m not going to rush delivery on a dramatically impactful line, but I also won’t linger on some duke blabbing about the history of his house’s conflict with the weekend’s villain.

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      The Netflix Live action One Piece didn’t even cover all of the East Blue Saga, which ran from 1997 to 1999 originallly.

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    When I had a kid at home who liked one piece I learnt that the show has no end. You can watch it while you want to and you’ll get a little story progression. You don’t need to start at the start, you don’t need to watch to the non existent end

    It was fun to watch the first twenty or so episodes then jump to the current state (current state circa 2007)

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    If you’re not reading right now, then you’re missing out on the story of the saddest family in existence.