I’ma just say some shit. Argue with me, agree… idgaf. Let’s get some action in this sub besides 3-5 of us posting random songs. Just do something interesting.

Ace Hood should get more respect.

Roots should get brought up more in GOAT discussions. So should Andre Nickatina.

Keef vs Kanye in influence might be close tbh. Kanye might win by a tiny bit.

Speaking of Kanye, he gets credited for a lot of shit he didn’t come up with. He did perfect a lot of it though.

Bone > Three6 but not by a lot

Twistas slick as fuck, and still TO THIS DAY

00s South might be the GOAT era

Cole Fucking World. Before he was popular, my dude puked on his bouncer/manager or some shit. Only like 50 people at Coles show and we got hammered with the dude. My man hit the blunt and that was it

I know mfers are likely internet nerds when they bring up Griselda in real life.

I know because of KRS-one. Kriss Kross did make me dance.

If screw ain’t make it, it ain’t a screw tape.

Nas > Jay

Control wasn’t a diss, it was actually more of a compliment to everyone named.

Give me the check, gimme the throne

I don’t trust mfers like to say hip hop was created for political reasons. Sure, it was an aspect… but so was breaking down the boogie to the hippity hop and you don’t stop.

Luda was the best out of ATL during the Jeezy/TI/Gucci era.

Jeezy > Gucci > TI

DMX though

In general, hip-hop got stale. I don’t blame em but we are in Punks Good Charlotte phase.

Gavlyn though.

Pusha won, but Story of Adidon is over hyped.

Kendricks sound fell off after GKMC. He still has some nice joints, but he’s a lot more hit or miss to my ears.

Hip hop peaked in the 90s or 00s, even though the 10s had some nice shit.

Crunk Aint Dead wasn’t crunk, shit was just a nostalgia play for money.

I bet that Catch Me Outside girl is more good than most the industry tbh. Idk shit about her though tbh, just know half these mfers are actually nerds.

Lupe is good, but he’s not a lyrical god. I think his type of writing is easier than writing catchy shit.

Choppers like tech/twista/AFRO/gift of gab/etc are cool AF. Might not always be the mood but cool AF

99% Wayne did it… the F is for first.

You can not say Pop and forget the Smoke

  • @small44@lemmy.worldM
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    Roots should get brought up more in GOAT discussions. So should Andre Nickatina

    I find GOAT discussion corny especially when there is a lot of style of hip hop

    Bone > Three6 but not by a lot`

    I don’t like Three6 flow so I think Bone is far far superiror

    Twistas slick as fuck, and still TO THIS DAY

    I don’t think Twisa fast flow is bad but it’s pretty generic and lack spiciness

    In general, hip-hop got stale. I don’t blame em but we are in Punks Good Charlotte phase.

    The weekly new music friday posts shows that this isn’t true

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      The weekly new music friday posts shows that this isn’t true

      That wasn’t really true of Punk at the time either. There was lots of good Punk, it just wasn’t popular. I think Hip Hop is probably in a similar place, it is just WAY easier to find the less popular stuff now. We didn’t have Spotify in 2002.

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        27 months ago

        I don’t see why underground music shouldn’t be considered when discussing the current state of a genre

        • @BearigatorM
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          Oh it should for sure be part of the conversation. It is the main thing I want to talk about in modern rap usually. I just think that current mainstream rap is in a weird place. What was at one point very counter-culture is has been the best selling music genre in the US and that for sure makes whatever rap is most popular very different from where it was 30 years ago.

          Same thing has happened with Rock honestly. What at one point was the cutting edge of music became stale and sort of fell off, which is where we are today. Of course, that doesn’t mean that great and genre expanding bands don’t exist, but if the most popular portion of the genre is stale, I think it means something for the genre as a whole.

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    Old school rappers should stop using the excuse of trying to experiment and try something different when they clearly try to appeal to the new generation of mainstream listeners.

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    Tonedeff rapped “the counter culture became the culture of counting” or some shit.

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    I know mfers are likely internet nerds when they bring up Griselda in real life.

    True but also that works for any underground rapper.

    I don’t trust mfers like to say hip hop was created for political reasons. Sure, it was an aspect… but so was breaking down the boogie to the hippity hop and you don’t stop.

    Yeah, that’s the type of people who wants their 3rd eye open during the party and will play some Common to show everyone they’re different.

    Jeezy > Gucci > TI

    In 2023, I’d say Gucci over Jeezy. They all kinda fell off but some harder than most. TI went from my favorite rapper to not even try his new shit. Jeezy is cool but I was never a fan like that. Gucci is GOAT, that’s all. He will never reach his peak again but when he drops, it’s an automatic listen.

    Kendricks sound fell off after GKMC. He still has some nice joints, but he’s a lot more hit or miss to my ears.

    Never understood that take. To me, GKMC wasn’t all that sonically. Kendrick delivered a masterpiece lyrically no doubt, but some of the beats sounds dated and note in a good Nostalgia way. TPAB was a huge step up and DAMN. is too underrated.

    Crunk Aint Dead wasn’t crunk, shit was just a nostalgia play for money

    Definitely, but it slapped.

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      Yeah, that’s the type of people who wants their 3rd eye open during the party and will play some Common to show everyone they’re different.

      I hated those sorts of people, they always pick the most lyrically dense songs too. If I was at a party I was trying to get a little fucked up and dance with some girls, not bob my head thoughtfully and listen to metaphors.

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    Speaking of Kanye, he gets credited for a lot of shit he didn’t come up with. He did perfect a lot of it though.

    Holy fuck I used to be one of those people. After I heard Yeezus, nobody could tell me Kanye didn’t invent mixing Industrial and Rap.

       

    Twistas slick as fuck, and still TO THIS DAY

    People get stuck up on the fact that his last hit was in like…2010. Dude can still rap. Doesn’t help that the last track I can find him on was an Aaron Carter track though.

       

    I know mfers are likely internet nerds when they bring up Griselda in real life.

    Oh shit, it’s me. You are right though.

      

    Control wasn’t a diss, it was actually more of a compliment to everyone named.

    Holy fuck thank god, people took that shit way too serious. He was just trying to stir the pot and get people to drop some heat, it wasn’t beef and fans who took it like that drove me nuts.

      

    Choppers like tech/twista/AFRO/gift of gab/etc are cool AF. Might not always be the mood but cool AF

    I got in to this stuff because it is basically the only type of rap my wife likes. You are right, it sounds dope and doesn’t get enough props.

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    I see them votes, but y’all ain’t saying shit. This place is dead AF. Tell me to eat a dick because Drake > Kendrick.

    Agree with me cause you know Wayne’s the GOAT

    YMCMB

    Or convince my man Bearington, the real leader of this shit, to pull my mod status. Just do some shit. Shits so boring.

    • @mobOPM
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      *Bearigator. My bad ha.

      • @BearigatorM
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        Not gonna lie, Bearington would have been a dope handle