Hamad said that Palestinians are the victims of the occupation, therefore no one should blame them for the events of October 7 or anything else, adding: “Everything we do is justified.”

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    And this is the big long-term problem with Israel’s campaign of open genocide. They don’t care how many innocents are killed as long as they wipe out Hamas, but in the process, they’re inspiring more fanaticism in the region and fueling Hamas and other similar groups. Both Hamas and the Israeli government are terrorist organizations and they have a symbiotic relationship. The only real losers here are the innocent people caught in the middle.

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      Forgive my uninformed position here, but I’m sure they are aware that you can’t defeat terrorism by murdering the ever living piss-fuck out of everyone. There must be another motivation for just killing everyone.

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          Is taking their land effective though? Wouldn’t it just spawn cells within the newly acquired territory or other regions and continue?

          So much hate can only spawn more hate.

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            Not in the formerly Palestinian territory, because all the Palestinians would be dead.

            In other areas, such as nearby majority Muslim countries like Lebanon and Syria, yes, but then Israel could argue that they were being attacked as a nation, even more like 9/11 than the Oct 7th attack. They could use that as justification for strikes into those countries, since everyone let the US do it in Iraq and Afghanistan.

            It just depends on how much they want to go for the military victory.

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            That’s the best part then you can steal more land! israel just keeps magically gaining land! The ever expanding lebensraum for the chosen people!

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        Well… yeah? Ain’t no one hear saying Hamas are the good guys. Just the second part of a two-headed parasite thats attached itself to the people if Israel/Palestine.

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          Except there are a lot of people like the first half of the parent I replied to that have a “Israel reaped what they sowed on October 6” attitude. But somehow don’t have a similar “they have reaped what they sowed” attitude towards Gaza right now.

          Which isn’t quite right.

          No one wants to share their toys since 1917. Both sides have alternatingly done ugly things that are, to our modern sensibilities, probably war crimes and ethnic cleansing. Previously, it was just war.

          We did the same/worse things to Native Americans. Spain and Portugal did the same/worse things to the Aztecs and Incas. Britain did the same/worse things to almost everyone.

          I just don’t think either side is justified but pretending like Palestine is any more or less of a victim than Israel in this whole mess doesn’t really seem to ring true if you look at the whole history.

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            @stevehobbes I will never understand why people bring up genociding Native Americans as if it somehow was okay/makes other genocides okay.

            There are more than “two sides.” There are plenty of ordinary civilians including a lot of children, who don’t want any of this stuff to happen.

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            Knowing the cause of something does not excuse it. Just helps you better understand it, and how to prevent it in the future.

            Saying Israel’s actions have a direct relationship with Hamas activity is not supporting Hamas. Its saying their actions are antithetical to a peaceful resolution, nothing else.