Government attributes decision to war crimes and human rights abuses being committed in Gaza

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    1 year ago

    Basically every country, for the most part, wants to keep regular relations going with every other country. Doesn’t mean they agree with each other or really even engage in trade. They want to remain friendly and have open communications channels. Severing ties in this way means that there is no possible normal interactions between them again.

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      Good. Only ~215 countries to go. No one should have normal interactions with Israel or anyone who supports Israel.

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        Being able to talk to a government is a far cry from supporting it or agreeing with it. Even if you dislike Israel, you should want there to be diplomatic relations - that is how other countries can exert influence and attempt to steer them off more radical courses, after all.

        Case in point - if the West had no diplomacy with them, then the opening of the border crossing into Egypt would never have happened.

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          There is probably a place between stupid and ridiculous that you could have aimed for. Amazingly, you managed to hit both of those.

    • I agree. Having no diplomatic communications at all is a bad idea especially during times of crisis. Regardless of your feelings of the behaviour of a state, the phone line should always exist for governments to speak to each other. Whether we’re talking about Israel or Iran or Russia or North Korea or whatever. When your own citizens need help, or a crisis is ongoing, or a natural disaster occurs, or whatever, you want someone on the other end to pick up the phone.

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    They never did properly renew them after 2009 though, since the reasons for moving to minimal levels never went away, current events kinda just exemplifying why Bolivia never felt the desire to renew them.

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    Is this mostly symbolic? I wasn’t aware these countries had anything to do with each other.

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      Yes and no. We live in a global world and generally all countries are seen as “equal” when it comes to international relations. So when a country specifically severs ties with another, it creates friction, normally the rest of the world can provide proxy relations, i.e. Qatar with Iran, or Turkey or Britain/Canada with Cuba or whatever. But if multiple countries stop recognizing another countries sovereignty, that can cause a lot of complications with say citizens of that country traveling and having relations.

      So even if Bolivia doesn’t deal with Israel directly, if there is an Israeli business conducting commerce within Bolivia, suddenly it becomes a lot more complicated if there is any kind of financial dispute, or some kind of international incident involving a country that Bolivia doesn’t have relations with.

      Basically the Israeli company is exposed to a lot more risk then they would be otherwise.

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      Particularly not after Cast Lead in 2009 when Bolivia broke off relations. Israel hasn’t really shown any reason for Bolivia to want to renew them since either.

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    Our west government, EU institutions are probably bugged and backdoor-ed to hell. I work in the field and the number of rightpasses, access that some isreali companies have, is intriguing, to say the least.

    anyway, time to treat them as normal person and get accounted for their action!

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      8 months ago

      How can it be that Muslim/Arab countries talk so much about Israel, yet it was South Africa who went to ICJ.

      I believe even though the Arab/Muslim people care about Palestinian people, but Arab/Muslim politicians don’t. They don’t give a fuck, as Israel also don’t give a fuck.

      PS: Free Palestinians!

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      I’m afraid that most States are addicted to the cyber mercenary services from Israeli corporations (eg NSO Group), and they would be unlikely to issue sanctions against them because they’re unwilling to loose tools like Pegasus.

      Glad to hear that Bolivia and Colombia are on the right side of history but I doubt Argentina or most countries in Europe would join.