Most people from my circle use mainstream apps and see me as that “alternative” weirdo/geek.

Most alternative options are being used by geeks and males quite often. Its hard to find normies here.

Do you think there will be a shift in perception?

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    People intuitively understand you when you say you try to go to locally-owned co-ops/farmers markets instead of Walmart when you can, right? Or that you prefer to avoid Amazon and support your local independent bookshop, right? It’s actually cool to care about these things, people respect you when you make little rebellious political decisions.

    My advice is frame your decisions about what apps to use the same way. “I try not to use the big corporate-owned apps when there are smaller non-profit alternatives run by communities of normal people.” Now you’re not some paranoid weirdo who’s afraid the NSA is out to get him, you’re just socially-conscious and care about things like where your time and money is going. I almost never try to explain what “open source” is or anything like that.

    A girl on a first date once asked me what messaging apps I used and I said something like “My friends and I have been using this smaller non-profit app, it has all the same features as Messenger but without all the Zuckerberg bullshit.” and she downloaded it right then and there, thought it was cool.

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    There will never be a shift in perception because people do not care. Normal mainstream people, I call this the middle society, the normal worker class, never use the best solution in terms of privacy or what might be ethical correct. This will never change, never. No matter how many leaks, no matter if media is all over it, people do not care.

    Education plays a major role, lots of people are uneducated when it comes to technology.

    Also, please stop calling people weirdos or normies, if you want that someone should take this question serious.

    Some people also have other interest, a trucker in his truck who is constantly under time pressure has less time to chill his life in a forum and do a philosophy talk about this and that. It is an oversimplified example, not a generalization, but reflects this part of society pretty much.

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      Using the word normie in this context seems fine to me, but I think that the OP, (and myself) have felt a bit weird being different from what everyone else is doing

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    be proud of it. When i order a meal in a restaurant i tell the waiter i use arch linux. When im done and he’s trying to count the handful of coins i’ve given him i tell him that the bank uses proprietary software and i do this out of respect for mine and his freedom and privacy

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    At least in my circles and where I live it’s pretty normal to shit on mainstream apps. Most people still use them, but if my opinion of those platforms comes up I never feel judged. In fact, since the social dilemma came out and after Facebook’s most recent controversies and name change I’ve heard more and more people speaking poorly of social-media, smart phones, and algorithms in general.

    In my experience it’s almost as if using social-media is perceived the same as smoking was in the 80s-90s: everyone knows it’s terrible for you, but it’s normal. Now, in conversation there’s almost a prestige in saying “I don’t use Facebook” that causes people who do use Facebook to immediately justify using it by saying things like “Yeah, I only use it to keep in touch with family”, or “I don’t check it very often”.

    Many of my friends and family half-joke about their addiction to their phones and apps, it seems pretty widely recognized now.

    I don’t believe alternative apps, services, and platforms are necessarily better, so if I bring up the fediverse it’s usually in the context of me advocating for government forcing interoperability between social media sites to weaken the tech-giant oligopoly. Most people’s response is basically “huh, I didn’t even know that was possible”.

    For using Linux I used to catch flak from my friends when trying to play games with them, but we don’t play games nearly as often anymore and anything we do play generally works on Linux now, so I don’t get teased anymore. Amongst every single non-techie friend I have they could not possible care less that I use Linux.

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    I use Signal/Linux/modded versions of Instagram/other proprietary apps and don’t get seen as the “alternative” weirdo because I can clearly explain why I use these things.

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    My friends usually make jokes abut my needing 3h to launch a game (Not my fault I needed to compile a bunch of things) or my being “paranoic”. But I don’t care bc they do it an a friendly way and sometimes their jokes are funny.

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    Only half joking: Get tech savvy friends. Like, computer science/IT/infosec tech savvy, not Vlogger/Cryptocurrency/Tech review channel “tech savvy”. I’ve found that a lot of people in the tech profession, especially those involved with open source development or security are way more weary of “mainstream” consumer tech to the point of not wanting to use them.

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    Counter-question, how do I deal with this AND being a woman from a caring/interpersonal profession instead of a primarily IT/CS one? (My childhood was very CS/STEM heavy, but I broke away from the rest of the family in this regard).

    I’m kidding I already know: I’m trying to build up and contribute to the communities I want to see here, namely private spaces for people to vent about their Healthcare jobs and mental health concerns, and a place for people to look at memes, especially anticapitalist and otherwise non-conforming ones.

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    Well, I’m being marginalized on my “friend” group for not wanting to use facebook products or similar proprietary software. 😃. That’s how this alternative weirdo thing is working in my case. It hardens significantly this thing about making relationships, with or without the opposite sex. I just smile 😃. So that’s how I deal with it.

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    Use mainstream platforms as well as alternative platforms, I used Instagram for messaging friends and use alt platforms for scrolling and posting, IMO just own using different platforms to your friends, and tell your friends to use it as well. It can be more interesting to your friends if you have a genuine interest in the technologies and benefits of open-source. (Just don’t bore them to death)