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So fucking relatable. Recent experience: I called up my brother who is a car guy to get some help getting an old car started. He’s worked on cars, farm equipment, and sold car parts. He knows his shit.
I gave him what I was seeing and what I had done and he sends back a screen shot of what ChatGPT said about what I explained to him.
I would have rather had a 30 minute conversation of us going, “I don’t know. Have you tried this? Yeah, oh, well, then, um, hmm. Maybe it is the defanglinator. Or the wires to the pulsometerizer.” We’re exercising our brains, enjoying each other’s conversation, solving a problem together… which is more important than actually solving the problem and why I called you, you dope!
Oh, and the LLM response ended up not being relevant or helpful. We’re all fucking cooked.
Kinda sounds like he’s tired of being g a free consultant.
which is more important than actually solving the problem
Error. <_> I do not compute. xD
Alas still, being an expert and yet sending someone LLM response is a low blow. xD
If you send me uncurated AI output, I will just pipe it back into ChatGPT and reply the result.
One hundred fucking percent. This slop has ruined peoples brains already. I’m about done socializing with any human who uses it.
Imagine how brainrotted they will be in 5 years.
You are right! AI is shit and do wastes a lot of resources – do you need help with anything else?
One of my coworkers is a proud advocate of LLMs. What I’ve noticed is she’s become more scatterbrained and less confident when put on the spot.
Our new COO came into my office the other day and started asking some prepared questions. When we got to our MDM for our iPhones she pulled her phone out and started feeding my answers into an AI to get follow up responses for me.
Not sure how well she’ll do… she is quite on the ball for a lot of stuff but I’m certain that the LLMs will rot her brain. :(
“Why the fuck are you even here?”
Being confident on the spot died the moment you could look something up on the internet. LLM’s did not do that.
And it was dead for me at birth, if I’m 0.1% unsure about something I’ll stutter and hesitate to pull the trigger.
That’s also how I act when I haven’t been doing my job, lol.
Goddamn clankers.
cogsuckers
Third party thinkers
Maybe I’m using it wrong, but every task I give copilot comes back with empty documents. It shows me a preview of the work it did, and it looks okay, but the documents are always empty or lack the actual content while full of filler.
And it always responds with oh yes you’re right there is no content, here you go this time with content. No content.
This has to be a joke, right?
You’re absolutely correct - There’s no content in your documents. 🚫📃
Would you like me to format your documents again, without actually leaving them empty this time? ✏📫
Notice: Your free trial has expired. -> View upgrade plans
Please I have PTSD
My guess is that the software or website needs access to a local temp folder to write in before handing you its work. It probably doesn’t get that from the server in basic versions.
Maybe I’m using it wrong, but every task I give copilot comes back with empty documents.
I dunno about copilot but I paid for GPT to do a bunch of document migration from legacy pdfs/papers for work. Saved me dozens of hours. Still it was also prone to returning blank or ridiculously bare documents that did not match the preview.
IMO AI would more aptly called IA, or Intuitive Automation. Basically the classic genie in a bottle granting wishes literally trope, but with python.
I’m a beginner>intermediate coder. But thinking about projects and prompts in terms of, “how would I code this” helps a lot. I also try to prompt in a way that “grammatically” translates well to code concepts.
Complex projects inevitably will require multiple prompts. You’ll want it to generate a downloadable document at every step and if you’re working with data you need it to generate a master copy for reference… Sometimes you need to go back several prompts and change directions.
Why do i hate this art style? Not that it’s bad, although i think it kinda is, but it’s got a real negative association in my head. It’s like seeing a rockthrow comic and immediately getting icked out by the Nazi that made it.
Edit: wait, i think it’s because it reminds me of some gamergate comic
Yeah, even though pizzacake takes stances I generally agree with, her work has that “this comic only exists for me to express my social and political views in a way that amplifies my voice online” type of quality. This type of art usually is:
- Flat or pillow shaded for simplicity, because the beauty of the image isn’t relevant to its purpose, and the artist needs to produce it quickly to respond to current events
- Depicts characters, even protagonists, in a mockingly exaggerated way, because this is the main form of stylization the comic must support in order for the author to make fun of strawman versions of positions they don’t like (because anything beyond a strawman, regardless of position, does not fit in a digestible 4 panels)
- Simple and repetitive poses with no dynamicism, often because the artist is not a very skillful artist, because they only developed the skill to make comics like this in the first place
Basically, it’s visually unpleasant because the only reason this has any visual component is to make it more eye-catching compared to just text. Unlike most art, it does not need to be visually appealing, and in fact even benefits from being visually unappealing, as an art style that pisses you off a little is more likely to make you feel a vague sense of there being a problem to resolve - which the comic tells you is the issue it presents. Even advertising has to be eye-catching first, but memorable and compelling after that, because you need to take it in very quickly. Whereas this has the expectation of reading built into it, which frees it from what little need to be pleasant it may have left. The visuals are nothing more than lubricant to help the text go down.
The art also serves to promote her onlyfans. Do you think her lighter brunette friend is on there too?
Honestly I have no intrinsic problem with people doing onlyfans. It can be gross or problematic depending on how dishonestly it’s approached, but I often feel like its pretty honest and harmless? I guess with her, it probably relies a lot on sad weird redditors who are in love with the simplified yet agreeable entity her comics portray her as. That’s a little bit in gross territory I guess, but I’d rather she made money with porn than with putting out this “slop”-tier circlejerky junk that reduces a complex world full of discussions worth having down to:
"Me and you (Smart and right and based)
People we dislike (dumb and wrong and cringe)"
In my opinion, her comics do a lot of harm to the state of political discourse here and even more so on Reddit. It would be so much better if she would make cleverer, or funnier, or at least more critically thought-through comics (but that wouldn’t be as popular). Barring that, it would be less harmful if she just did onlyfans. But also I just don’t see an issue with selling that kind of stuff anyways.
The characters look like they have bad breath and are from some nowhere town in the Midwest. Like there should be a morbidly obese character and they all should shop at the Walmart. That is my knee jerk reaction for some reason. It’s like American plain hamburger manga.
That being said I can’t hate on the content of this comic at all. Fuck AI, and I’m glad whoever made this actually made it.
Oddly specific criticism
mindless drones
My boss has become the person in blue. Can’t get any work done now because follow up questions are to hard for him now.
Ask him what his favorite color is.
Chatgpt, what is my favorite color?
I’d upvote as I agree… if Pizzacake posted this. You know she has agency right
Ugggh, more of this hotheaded, crank pot bitch. Such garbage.
Hey ChatGPT, can you explain to me what a misogynist sounds like?
Sure. And, fuck Pizzacake, she’s a douche canoe.
Care to explain why?
I’m a fellow Nova Scotian, the same as her. So if love to hear some rando’s opinion.
No.
She got into a major bitch fest with Me a few years back on that other site.
No, I did not screen shot any of the comment thread.
She was a pigheaded twat.
I do not care if anyone believes me.
People relying entirely on AI to make all of their decisions though seems like a rarity.
You have to be particularly narcissistic or inclined to bipolar or schizophrenia because AI’s are irritatingly yes-men coded still.
Every time I try to use an AI and I suggest a counter to its points I often get frustrated when it fails to make very convincing counter points to me and just is like “You’re made a very astute point” or some shit. I don’t need to have my fucking ego stroked.
Plus there are times when I want to argue about something taboo, and it starts to literally mimic the worst aspect of human intellect: judging my character for even arguing a certain perspective. Its like, motherfucker one of the bigger reasons to use you is to avoid judgement. I want to know if an argument is actually wrong, not if its suggested into being wrong by cultural mass peer pressure over virtue.
Its a result of being so pre-occupied with being helpful and safe in their training process.
I need a sociopathic “intellect only” AI so I can argue with it. I want to know if I’m right about shit. Maybe I could finangle one with prompting but I doubt it, its too ingrained in their very design.
EDIT: Oh, I should have noted what com I was in. Oh well, I wont delete it. Its my honest thoughts.
There is no ‘maybe’ there. LLMs have no metric or ability to tell if something is ‘true’ or not. Any ‘finangling’ you’d have to do is so much of the work that the LLM is doing the same thing it always does - “That’s a great point!”
You’d have better luck asking the paint bucket in MS Paint what a rainbow looks like.
@grok please make sense of this rambling
Frame the question/conversation as a critique of someone else’s argument/viewpoint. Works reliably to get rid of the yes-man problem
Now this is the subtle and refined social commentary we’ve come to expect from Pizzacake.
I can’t believe how smart this pizzacake lady is. Please share more of her wisdom.
She is farming the same art, the most common sense shit.
I think she counts as honorary AI.
? I’m ootl on this, what’s pizzacake done?
She’s basically the queen of Reddit’s /comics sub. She sics mods on people that criticize her art, even on parody subs elsewhere in Reddit. She gets people banned for making spoofs of her comics.
Her content is all this style. Main character has an opinion that’s very level headed and mildly progressive, the strawman other character is just a moron. The kind of comics where you agree with what’s said, but you hate the way she says it. It’s the kind of humor that many progressives say makes them look bad, because it’s practically how a right-winger would portray an insufferable left-winger. Also she’s Canadian but primarily writes about US politics.
As the next meme down puts it https://lemmyverse.link/piefed.world/c/lemmyshitpost/p/1069587/totally-not-inspired-by-recent-comments
Thanks for the info. I only know a couple comics that have been posted here on Lemmy. I didn’t even know she had her own reddit sub or that she would be such a sore loser.
IDGAF what the message is when the speaker is PizzaCake, ya’ll need to stop sharing bigots and sexists.
Can you explain?
I can already smell vote manipulation like the last time pizzacake sealions asked me a million questions. Use a Search Engine, Mic Drop.
Nah, we need to normalize posting sources for claims like this. Receipts or it didn’t happen.
Y’all
Might look like proper grammar but definitely not how it’s pronounced.
Nope
Apostrophe placement has no influence on how a word is pronounced; they’re always silent.
An apostrophe is a substitute for omitted letters. It’s “y’all” because the apostrophe is taking the place of the the “ou” in “you all”. “Ya’ll” makes no sense in relation to “you all”.
Nobody on this wide earth pronounces it as “You All”.
This feels like a ripped off joke from that one south park episode
I mean, the basic concept of this joke goes back as far as the printed press. People who need someone else to give them their opinion.
This is just a modern take on that.
The printing press freed information, in a lot of ways.
And now we have libraries, one of humanities greatest achievements outside the power grid.
Llms and billionaires want to hold info hostage, and make you pay a subscription because you’re now too brain dead to think for yourself. Its a good plan. It will work.
And I can GUARANTEE every single person responsible for creating llm slop believes libraries shouldnt exist ( I know several of these people).
I don’t like this meme.
There’s a million things to hate corporate AI over, but resource use is the most… mixed one.
Stuff like Cerebras API, anyone hosting Deepseek v4, self hosting Qwen 27B or RAG models or whatever all use less energy than your computer will use as you read this comment.
It’s AI Bros like Altman and Musk trying to gaslight the world into thinking we need to give them trillions of dollars. Utilitarian machine learning does not need a lot of infrastructure; a lot can run locally, anyway. But they don’t want that for the same reason Reddit bans any mention of Lemmy, or you have to subscribe for printer ink.
…And that aside, much of the waste comes from:
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FOMO. Impatience. That this server farm must be built right now, not a month from now. The urban locations, gas turbines, evaporative cooling; it’s all used only because it’s the absolute quickest to set up, not because it’s economical long term. It’s all bubble play.
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Being stuck on Nvidia (who are pushing voltages too high). Chinese hosting (using actual ASICs now, which they developed because of the sanctions) is proof it doesn’t have to be that way. Cerebras WSLs, bitnet and binary models, NPUs, they’re all proof none of this has to eat so much power.
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Sheer development inefficiency in the US. The amount AI dev houses here burn to make meager products is… shameful, really. I’ve heard rumors they give GPU farms busywork just to give the appearance of being useful, and their development is way more dysfunctional than you’d think.
I could go on and on, but basically resource usage is a distraction from all the things that actually suck about corporate AI. Like the centralization. The rent-seeking. The safety theatre to squash competition. The crypto-like scamming and FOMO. Blatant immunity to IP law if rich enough. The clinically insane financial and corpo fervor. The “magic lamp” packaging and presentation, the dark patterns in the UI, the sycophancy for engagement, the shoving it down everyone’s throat, there’s a million reasons to complain. But I swear, the AI Bros are inflaming the resource usage argument just to gaslight the “other side” into giving them money.
While I agree with your points, when your typical electric bill is $201 vs $75 compared to the city literally down the street because the one you live in sucks ai bros dickaganda, resources matter a lot. It’s literally millions of residents overpaying for electric resources because of this bullshit.
Example 1 of many (where I got the numbers above):
San Jose has explored creating its own municipal electric utility, but a 2025 partnership between the city and PG&E to attract data centers to Silicon Valley has halted that pursuit.
Stuff like Cerebras API, anyone hosting Deepseek v4, self hosting Qwen 27B or RAG models or whatever all use less energy than your computer will use as you read this comment.
This is absolutely just not the case. A couple of minutes of an idling end user device does not use as many joules as a few seconds of a self hosted model. There are other tasks that will be as intensive, but reading static text in a browser won’t do it. That’s not to say it’s an unforgiveable waste of resources on a personal level or anything, just that your comparison is a bit busted.
The hosted models in pursuit of going faster take disproportionately more energy, analagous to how a redline engine burns way more fuel than a modest operating engine.
Bruh. Debate us like a real human. Quit hiding behind the plagiarism machine.
It’s wild that their post doesn’t read like AI, is broadly more critical of AI than not, and yet because it doesn’t blanket condemn AI as pure irredeemable sin - people just assume it’s AI written? We’ve got to be careful not to let AI become this ultimate unfalsifiable scapegoat, where any time someone puts forward a line of reasoning that makes me uncomfortable, I can just say “oh wait, I know, it must be AI!” and stop thinking about it. It’s so dangerous for people to have quick general purpose ways out of cognitive dissonance like that, because it prevents people from moving from wrong positions to right ones.
In addition, just because information is AI generated does not make it false. If an AI tells me the sky is blue I’m not going to start believing the sky is actually green. But the same goes for for knowledge I’m not already sure of. An AI is capable of generating good or bad arguments for a position, and if it really is just plagiarizing as you say, then whatever arguments it regurgitates would have been initially put forth by a human and worthy of your consideration by the “debate us like a real human” standard you put forth, anyways. So even if their post was generated by AI, the theoretical problem with that, according to you, is that it would be nonsense - and if that’s the case, you should be able to refute the content of the argument directly rather than criticizing the source.
Your AI detector is busted, bud.
Just because it would be convenient for what you already believe doesn’t make something true.
Stop AI generating screenshots of AI detectors bro. I can tell this is AI because some of the pixels are making shapes that would mean I was wrong about something
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