@k_o_t@lemmy.ml
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watching things deteriorate for discord and discord bootlickers being mad on /r/discordapp is going to be fun :)

the less fun part will be to convice millons to move to Matrix ot return to IRC

@k_o_t@lemmy.ml
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nobody has to, where could they go really? what alternative besides matrix is there? (i’m not sure, maybe there is, just that i’m not aware of it)

@AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.ml
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what alternative besides matrix is there?

Realistically? Peplle will keep using Discord. Switching platforms involves a lot of friction.

@k_o_t@lemmy.ml
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i’m not really implying immediate mass migration, but i’m fully confident in m$'s ability to fuck it up :)

@AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.ml
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I’m not. I am, however, confident in Microshaft’s ability to make it just bad enough in the name of profit to make people who use it miserable, but not miserable enough to actually switch.

@birokop@lemmy.ml
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theres still a chance they dont fuck it up right?

Bilb!
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A pretty good chance, I think.

Mumble is a good alternative for the audio communication and XMPP of course, both are easy to self-host.

@disrooter@lemmy.ml
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Telegram has voice chats now, it’s a no-profit and doesn’t use/sell users’ data

Dreeg Ocedam
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It’s not a non profit.

@disrooter@lemmy.ml
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Yes, it is.

Dreeg Ocedam
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According to Wikipedia

Telegram Messenger states that its end goal is not to bring profit,[25][26] but it is not currently structured as a non-profit organization.[27]

It’s basically funded by a millionaire and has no business model. They stated that they intend to create their own Ad system for the one to many channels. I wouldn’t bet on them in the long term.

@disrooter@lemmy.ml
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but it is not currently structured as a non-profit organization.

It is an ambiguous sentence. Maybe it meant they don’t accept donations, aren’t transparent etc? I wanted to check the source but it’s behind a paywall. Wikipedia shouldn’t really allow articles behind paywalls to be used as a source. However Telegram wrote in its FAQ that it is non-profit, that’s enough for me. How they bureaucratically pursue this goal is their business. If they violate their privacy policy they will be prosecuted. If they change it to exploit user data or to sell it, I will stop recommending Telegram.

@disrooter@lemmy.ml
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By the way, they now have a business model: since broadcast channels with hundreds of thousands of users use to display advertisements, Telegram decided to standardize this behavior, creating a circuit of ads visible in very popular channels relevant to the channel’s topic and not to user data. A part of the proceeds goes to the channel manager and a part helps to finance Telegram.

@someone@lemmy.ml
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It’s better to not bother, nobody is going to do it.

Matrix and IRC ftw

The slime mold assimilates another parasitic protozoan.

Travis Skaalgard
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Time to start proselityzing Matrix, friends!

Subversivo
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MS is buying so many social platforms we can think they are trying to challenge Facebook.

Waiting for the VS code integration to land to build a powerful walled garden.

fatboy
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oh fuck

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No, no this is good. I think Microsoft at least would have the decency to let people use third party clients. Even if ends up not being the case it can’t be worse then it is now.

what makes you say that? It would benefit them to keep it all to this client because they can implement whatever tracking they want and you wouldn’t have any choice. Most microsoft products don’t have apis for 3rd party apps that I know of. I would love to see it but I don’t think it’s going to happen.

lmao @ every tech company ever being bought by GAFAM.

This is a chance for open source to be more innovative than them I believe.

Katie Ampersand
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don’t those clowns know you can just get it from their website

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