• Neuromancer@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    WE will never have a third party nor would I want one. We would need 6-10 parties. That is the only way this gets better.

    You seem to think to compete, you have to grow larger. You don’t. If you are trying to make a living for your coop, you just need to make enough for all of you to do that.

    Dutch Brothers is doing well and they’re not near the size of Starbbucks. Peets has always done well.

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      1 year ago

      Dutch brothers by revenue is essentially a drive through energy drink stand, not a coffee company and Peet’s is owned by a holding company that got rich off of Nazi work camp labor.

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        1 year ago

        Peers wasn’t started by jab. They were purchased later by jab.

        Both have competed with Starbucks.

        Actually the guy who started Starbucks worked for Peet’s.

        That’s the point. Peet’s was the Starbucks until Starbucks started.

        I’ve owned a few coffee places but I focused more on the old coffeehouse experience. It’s a different model entirely.

        I may do it again. I always did ok but people want quick service.

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          1 year ago

          Peet’s had 4 stores before it started changing hands, Peet’s and Starbucks famously did not compete with each other for years, and Starbucks wasn’t even selling brewed coffee before it was taken over by Shultz and venture capital.

          But from my experience in the industry, your confident incorrectness is perfectly in character for a coffee shop owner.