I like the ones where the tech stack is literally every language/framework in use by anybody anywhere. Maybe you guys should try picking the stuff that’s best suited for whatever it is you’re doing.
Had an old boss that wouldn’t put our stack in JDs because he felt any truly good programmer could pick it up. I mean, true, but it’s not efficient hiring, or effecient business practice.
I would actually like to work at a place like that. I’ve worked with a very wide variety of languages and platforms and I don’t much care which one I use now. I’m much more interested in what the project is than in what tools are being used to produce it.
Just kidding - nobody has interesting projects any more.
Well, we had one stack. There was no variety, it was that he didn’t want to put it on JDs.
And some places have interesting things, but unfortunately not many. I’m working on data provenance protocols and distributed identity management using ActivityPub at the moment, and I would consider that very interesting, but super-boring to others.
Sorry, you have to pass multiple rounds of interviews and get approved for the job before we tell you, which is not wasting anyone’s time when you find out it’s substantially less than you’ll accept. Why can’t we find people to fill this position? No one wants to work anymore.
It’s weird that there’s some jurisdictions where employers don’t have to list the salary range in the job listing, or upon request from an applicant before an interview. It doesn’t make sense to have to do interviews only to find out that you’d be massively underpaid.
I think at least New York now requires jobs to post a range. I haven’t even seen bullshit like “$50k - $500k” - maybe the law was written strongly enough that they can’t loophole it that way.
I keep getting recruiters sending me in-office jobs on the other side of the country and not even telling me the salary range. You’re asking me to break my lease, uproot my family, and leave behind all my local friends. If your salary is low enough that you don’t want to advertise it up front, why would I ever even consider doing all that?
must know Java, go, JavaScript, Ruby, Python, or rust
Depending on the division you ended up in at the company I work you might need one or more of MSSQL, MySQL, PostgreSQL, C#, TypeScript, JavaScript, PHP, Ruby, VB.NET, Terraform, Groovyscript, or PowerBuilder.
I just started skipping the first 1-2 pages of all ads, they usually just talk about what a fantastic company they are, etc. Just noise that no one is interested in, not even the ones lying about it.
At the end after all the fluff there is usually a description of what you are supposed to know and do. And if there isn’t, well I am not wasting my time with them.
Also, describing salary range seems very different in different countries
Writing that programming languages is the thing you will be working on. Not what application you will be doing because you’re just a tool, not human being.
Been doing the job search and it’s frustrating how bad most of the job postings are. There’s so much filler nonsense.
I pretty much just want to know like
Some postings are like “must know Java, go, JavaScript, Ruby, Python, or rust” and I’m like do you use all of those?
I like the ones where the tech stack is literally every language/framework in use by anybody anywhere. Maybe you guys should try picking the stuff that’s best suited for whatever it is you’re doing.
Had an old boss that wouldn’t put our stack in JDs because he felt any truly good programmer could pick it up. I mean, true, but it’s not efficient hiring, or effecient business practice.
I would actually like to work at a place like that. I’ve worked with a very wide variety of languages and platforms and I don’t much care which one I use now. I’m much more interested in what the project is than in what tools are being used to produce it.
Just kidding - nobody has interesting projects any more.
Well, we had one stack. There was no variety, it was that he didn’t want to put it on JDs.
And some places have interesting things, but unfortunately not many. I’m working on data provenance protocols and distributed identity management using ActivityPub at the moment, and I would consider that very interesting, but super-boring to others.
Sorry, you have to pass multiple rounds of interviews and get approved for the job before we tell you, which is not wasting anyone’s time when you find out it’s substantially less than you’ll accept. Why can’t we find people to fill this position? No one wants to work anymore.
It’s weird that there’s some jurisdictions where employers don’t have to list the salary range in the job listing, or upon request from an applicant before an interview. It doesn’t make sense to have to do interviews only to find out that you’d be massively underpaid.
I think at least New York now requires jobs to post a range. I haven’t even seen bullshit like “$50k - $500k” - maybe the law was written strongly enough that they can’t loophole it that way.
Doesn’t it cost them money to interview people? What a way to waste time
Yes but if they do find a poor shmuck that wants the job, they can hope he’ll undervalue himself and ask for even less.
Well, the one posting the job and hiding the salary info is also probably being paid by the number of interviews they do.
I keep getting recruiters sending me in-office jobs on the other side of the country and not even telling me the salary range. You’re asking me to break my lease, uproot my family, and leave behind all my local friends. If your salary is low enough that you don’t want to advertise it up front, why would I ever even consider doing all that?
Depending on the division you ended up in at the company I work you might need one or more of MSSQL, MySQL, PostgreSQL, C#, TypeScript, JavaScript, PHP, Ruby, VB.NET, Terraform, Groovyscript, or PowerBuilder.
Groovy that’s someone I haven’t heard about in like 10 years
My pet project uses it, but no one else does
When, where, what, how, … Aaaaagh
I just started skipping the first 1-2 pages of all ads, they usually just talk about what a fantastic company they are, etc. Just noise that no one is interested in, not even the ones lying about it.
At the end after all the fluff there is usually a description of what you are supposed to know and do. And if there isn’t, well I am not wasting my time with them.
Also, describing salary range seems very different in different countries
Well, they put an “or” in there, so I would say, they want at least 1 of those.
I just want to know what I will be doing and they say Java, go, JavaScript, Ruby, Python, or rust and I am like. I don’t do compilers.
? What do you mean
They mean they’d rather debug at runtime, preferably in production, with minimal instrumentation.
No that’s not what they meant. See their response.
Writing that programming languages is the thing you will be working on. Not what application you will be doing because you’re just a tool, not human being.
Ah ok I understand. Still it’s nice to know the preferred and used languages in a company.
Yeah but that’s what you will be using not what you will be doing.