I was wondering if there is an alternative platform such as Lemmy and Reddit that has these networks of discussion based forums with wide ranging topics but with more free speech/less censorship and a userbase that more realistically represents the actual people of the world.
I noticed that Reddit and especially Lemmy lean extremely far to the left and therefore have a pretty unrealistic bias for things which doesn’t accurately reflect how most average people would see things.
I’m someone who is very open for all kinds of viewpoints and I’m looking for a place where I can get answers that more accurately reflect peoples view.
For example as someone who’s interested in American politics and culture it is basically impossible to learn about it on this platform since everyone here including Americans themselves seems to have a deep hate towards America and the values it stands for.
I also noticed that even though it’s better than on Reddit there are still moderators here who will remove discussions just when people don’t agree on a topic. And I’m looking for something that is not censoring content unless it’s illegal to be able to freely express oneself.
The problem with platforms such as X is that they’re structurally drastically different from something like Lemmy or Reddit. Even though X does have communities, they’re not as wide ranging in topics and don’t focus on more in-depth discussion. Instead X seems to mainly promote prominent individuals opinions over the quality of content itself. Furthermore there also seems to be a character limit for X posts which basically only gives you a few basic sentences as a title without having a more detailed body section (unless you pay for it I guess, but even then the chance that anyone will see your post and answers is very low).
I assume I will probably also don’t get a proper answer on this one since I will now be called a disturbed radical right person who seeks platforms that will promote hate and child pornography or something.
Here we go again.
How are you being censored on lemmy? What is it that you want to post so badly but can’t?
I’ve definitively been censored on lemmy simply because the mod didn’t agree. It’s not as bad as reddit, but it’s real.
Then find a different community. Hell, make and mod your own. And if your viewpoints are as popular as you claim, people will flock to it. Best of luck.
Well, he did specifically bring up child sex abuse.
Just wait until this post gets removed by mods and you will see
you know this comment was in reply to this communities mod, right? Also it’s been 2h and the post is still here.
I’ve already been banned from like 15 different subs and half of them I never even visited. They just had me automatically banned for having lots of downvotes. Those downvoted comments were almost always something of a moderate take, but around these parts a moderate is assumed to be a Nazi. Which is fucking ludicrous.
The userbase on Lemmy is extremely far left and they are very unwelcoming of any opinions that don’t align with their own.
I wish you luck on finding your magical reddit clone that has no censorship or mod abuse, but pretty much any website that needs money to run will want to run ads. Ad makers don’t like no-no words and other spicy topics.
Lemmy should be the place to be in theory, but they are pretty openly hostile to anyone that isn’t firmly on “their side”.
I thought reddit had a left wing problem until I got to Lemmy. By comparison Reddit seems like a fairly well balanced spectrum of users lol.
If you’re having trouble finding the kind of opinions you’re looking for, maybe they aren’t the opinions of “the majority of the world.”
Maybe OP should touch grass if he wants to know what real people think
Around 50% of US voters who voted voted conservative in their last election. Around 40% of Canadians polled say they will vote conservative in the next election. That isn’t “a majority of the world”, but it’s a lot of people.
I haven’t seen many posts on here from them. We’d have more interesting discussions if it wasn’t just us agreeing how terrible those people are.
Edit: made it clear that I’m referring to people who voted.
First off, that’s completely false.
Less than 30% of Americans voted for Donald Trump. And a small portion of those people who did vote Trump, voted Democrat for their local elections.
I won’t argue with your numbers about Canada, but since your US numbers were inaccurate, I’m guessing the Canadian numbers are as well.
I’ve made it clear in my comment that I’m referring to people who voted in the last US election.
The point stands: significant portions of the population aren’t on Lemmy. Popular viewpoints aren’t represented. Lemmy is poorer for it.
Typical. Edit the comment, move the goalpost, and claim that the point still stands even though the data you used as proof fell apart.
I have no interest in talking to pieces of shit that voted to make some of my children “superior” to the others.
They put my family at risk, and I cannot accept that as a simple “difference of opinions”.
Lemmy is better off without the misinformation and hate those people bring.
Go hang out in 4chan if you think those people bring anything off value to the conversation.
I think those other viewpoints can be seen on many different social media platforms and sectors of life. It’s just not prevent on Lemmy and Reddit
If I go looking, I can probably find plenty of people sharing “evidence” that the Earth is flat. That doesn’t mean most people are falling for it.
Lemmy already is a free speech safe place in that nobody controls it. If you find that people are interacting with you negatively, blocking you, or otherwise not agreeing with you; that isn’t censorship. It doesn’t matter how many times you post this question.
You’re looking for 4chan. Enjoy, you should fit in there.
Look elsewhere.
Just choose a different instance :)
There’s nothing stopping you from setting up an instance for liberals where you can live in harmony with right-wing posters.
Seconded. OP may exaggerate the problem a little, but the hypersensitivity is real.
For another anecdatapoint, last year I had a unpleasant experience on a mainstream Feddit community after I suggested (very politely) that it was silly to label millions of people in Eastern Europe as “fascists” simply because some rightwing populists did well in an election. My comment got deleted along with a couple of others that were even more anodyne. I complained to the mod in private about the obvious thought-policing, and for my trouble got banned on grounds of “racism”. It was a completely surreal experience and made me question what I was doing here at all.
And of course I know already that some of you here are going to prejudge my intentions just as the mod did. No smoke without fire, right? Banned for racism! Obviously I must have been trying to propagate harmful and pernicious ideas! But no, I really wasn’t. I’m basically a liberal, I tend to vote green. I just enjoy debates, and ideas, and free exchange. Glancing over the comments here, I see that there are already several others who clearly do not enjoy those things, who don’t appreciate having their opinions questioned by others. I agree with OP that this is a problem.
Thirded. If that’s a thing.
Lemmy seems ideologically homogenous. I don’t think my instance is so defederated that I’m missing these posts, I think it’s that non-lefty posts/comments are actively discouraged.
It makes conversation kind of predictable.
Lemmy is mostly left wing, which starts at anticapitalist. But beyond that it’s certainly not ideologically homogeneous. If you want right wing content .world exists.
We already knew you were a liberal when you seconded his opinion.
That’s a well written, and legitimate question.
I really don’t know where such a place exists. I’m sure though, somewhere on lemmy, there must be a community that is as you seek.
A common problem with any form of internet discussion on topics regarding culture, and thought, is that they attract extremes. The ‘everyday’ person won’t be there to contribute conversation.
So, we are stuck with the wider poles of the community, clashing, censoring and all that comes with it.
Good luck in your search.
Most Lemmy Instances does not tolerate hate speech, so if you want true free speech, you won’t get it here.
One option is to talk to people in real life. There is no censorship other than any laws that might exist in your jurisdiction.
Or, if you want long-range communications: try amateur radio.
HF radio frequencies can potentially transmit throughout the entire world if you can afford the equiptment. You’ll have true free speech, because nobody owns radio waves (well, governments could jam them, but they’d probably just arrest you if it were illegal). You’d still have to be nice, if you act like a fool, others would just not respond to you.
Ham radio requires a licence in many jurisdictions to be used legally. (I don’t have a license yet, but I’m just getting interested in the idea of ham radios recently)
TLDR: Every platform will have some level of “censorship”, especially corporate owned ones. Ham radio is your best bet.
Try to find a Lemmy instance that aligns with what you seek, register there, create a community. Your current one -
lemmy.world- might be one of the worst choices for what you ask since it has heavy/biased moderation and a lot of moderation drama.I share your frustrations. Talking about politics on the internet is usually a waste of time because the people who are most keen on discussing it tend to have extreme points of view. WRT lemmy I only subscribe to non-politics subs and then switch to All if I ever have a rare hankering to discuss it.
Lemmy is pretty good in terms of moderation in my opinion provided you are not talking politics.
That may be harder to find. But complementing it with multiple platforms of differing political opinions may be a possible compromise.
