PSNope
    • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.worldEnglish
      197·
      8 hours ago

      I do and I’ve never had this problem. Ever. If the system goes down it’s rarely for more than a few hours, at which point i live my life, since I understand shit happens and servers sometimes fail. I dunno what your complaint is exactly but I get great value out of that yearly fee

      • MellowYellow13@lemmy.worldEnglish
        103·
        7 hours ago

        This has actually happened before multiple times. Why pay for internet usage also? You all are getting scammed. You know consoles even used to have free internet as well, the PS2 HDD glory days.

        You get zero value out of that fee, they are literally just taking your money. The fact you cannot see this is extremely sad

        • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.worldEnglish
          43·
          5 hours ago

          Do you think psplus is online gaming access only? The monthly games and catalogue games always have something new for me to play. I play PlayStation a minimum of 2 hours a day and I haven’t had to buy a game since I got psplus and a library card. Half the games on my list end up on psplus within months. Maybe you yourself don’t see the value but I get plenty out of it. I played over 100 different games this year and it only cost me $80 a year

      • TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldEnglish
        103·
        7 hours ago

        The complaint is that online on PC is free like it should be, not this ridiculous $80/year bullshit that console manufacturers can lock you into their ecosystem and force you to do.

        If I’m paying $80/year for a service that’s free on an already better platform, you’d better believe that it going down for this long (or basically at all) would be totally unacceptable.

        • MothmanDelorian@lemmy.worldEnglish
          53·
          7 hours ago

          If you have kids the fact the system is locked in becomes something of an advantage. MS and Sony are pretty aggressive moderating accounts when it comes to people being inappropriate around kids which is something you can’t get as easily on PC.

        • aname@lemmy.oneEnglish
          35·
          7 hours ago

          Already better platform? That is seriously subjective statement.

        • mostNONheinous@lemmy.worldEnglish
          310·
          7 hours ago

          Grow up, life isn’t perfect. You act like your WiFi you’ve paid for has never gone down before.

          • TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldEnglish
            61·
            7 hours ago

            For 12+ hours? Literally never, actually, in the 8 years with them (maybe 2 hours at most, maybe 5 total outages ever?), and there isn’t a simultaneously free and better alternative. This fee is just there to gouge; it shouldn’t even exist.

            Cope harder.

              • TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldEnglish
                51·
                6 hours ago

                You all constantly bitch about having to troubleshoot just to play games

                Projecting much? lmfao, sorry it’s too hard for you to navigate booting up a computer, installing Steam, downloading a game, and running it, I guess. That daunting task that needs so much troubleshooting.

                And besides that, a decent PC is functionally as cheap as a console when you account for online services (I’ve owned my PC for 8 years and then an additional $200 for a CPU replacement that I did of my own volition; at $80 annually, that’s $640 for online services alone, more than doubling the price of your console) and the price of games. The reason your console is cheap at the time of purchase is because it’s a loss leader. For that same amount or possibly even less, you get exactly as much flexibility as you want in everything you do, from the desktop hardware itself, to the peripherals, to the games (overwhelmingly more extensive), to the mods for the games, to backwards compat (too bad the PS5 isn’t backwards compatible with PS2 games and instead uses trashy, bootleg emulation dressed up as a “port” and sold back to you for $30; I can emulate any game I own for free meanwhile, including PS3 games), to workflow, to OS, to privacy, to look and feel, to online store I use, to software installed, to incremental upgrades. And of course a PC can do a million things a console categorically can’t on top of that; some people don’t live life just to play video games.

  • Domi@lemmy.secnd.meEnglish
    233·
    12 hours ago

    Why does this happen to Sony every few years? They expect you to pay for online and just can’t get their shit together.

    Good thing they stopped with the PSN requirement on PC. Imagine buying your singleplayer game and you can’t play it the entire day because Sony forgot to pay their server bills.

    • Jackthelad@lemmy.worldEnglish
      124·
      12 hours ago

      This hardly ever happens anymore. I remember the days of the PS3 when it felt like a weekly occurrence.

      • Domi@lemmy.secnd.meEnglish
        161·
        11 hours ago

        Weren’t they down for ~7 hours just last year?

        Not saying it happens often but having a downtime that long is unprofessional for a company that size.

        • SpikesOtherDog@ani.socialEnglish
          81·
          8 hours ago

          Yes. A worldwide service provider should be able to achieve at least 4 9s of uptime. That’s 99.99% available, or about <52 minutes of downtime a year. That’s accomplished through best practices with redundancy, planned maintenance, and solid disaster recovery plans.

          The ways to achieve a disaster of this magnitude include:

          • No hot spares
            • A security event has locked all redundant servers and they are now rebuilding servers from backup.
          • Lack of effective redundancy
            • A disaster has occurred at one data center and the load sharing is causing the servers to be unresponsive
              • This is unlikely because there would be intermittent reports of success
          • Poor patching management
            • Patches were sent to all servers without proper testing or rollback strategy
          • Bieren@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            6 hours ago

            Key word there is planned. You can have all of the best practices covered with the best possible solutions. But, at the end of the day, shit happens outside of your control.

  • Chozo@fedia.io
    2·
    11 hours ago

    Looks like it’s finally coming back up.

    Edit: nevermind, not fully back up. Looks like some PSN services are working, but game logins are still down.