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Lady Gaga explained why ‘Joker: Folie à Deux’ didn’t ‘connect’ with audiences how she ‘intended’ it to.
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Why does everything need to have a label? Musical film or not, it was an expected fresh take on storytelling. I knew nothing about the film before watching and I loved it.
Honestly didn’t hate it.
Wasn’t what I was expecting, and I suspect that’s where most of the disappointment came from as they wanted two hours of the Joker brutally murdering people…
Far from the worst film I’ve seen in the last few years.
Seconded.
It was very… experimental, I’d say. I applaud them for the balls to try. I feel like it wasn’t too far from achieving what it was going for.
Yesterday I was watching a musical episode of ST: Strange New Worlds after a few rums, and I really enjoyed it. However variety is expected from a show like Star Trek, especially because SNW sort of emulates the episodic feeling of the earlier shows.
My point being that while this particular episode was going for a jaunty positive sing-along, the Joker was probably going for something similarish but just in a dramatic and tragic sort of sense.
And the ST episode is ranked quite poorly as well, and I can see how I wouldn’t always enjoy it, but yesterday I really did.
So being “forced” to watch a musical is pretty much people’s problem, I think. Or seeing one without the expectation of seeing one.
god i loved that episode. i had no idea it was coming and i just had a dumb smile on my face all the way through.
I was literally singing along.
But as I said, I had had a few rums.
Loved it. But I don’t think I’d have the same energy right now, so watching the episode in this state wouldn’t be as good.
It was a musical where most of the music was one or two actors half singing, half talking, with no instruments in the background.
Either make a movie or make a musical, don’t get stuck halfway in between.That’s one of the things that frustrated me about the film. I like musicals, but this barely qualifies as musical. This is like watching a bad episode of Glee, and again, I liked Glee.
I thought the musical portions with like the game show in his head made sense as a realistic take on Joker who is insane and how he would view his odd relationship with this woman also in an insane asylum. The parts where he sang to her softly were weird IMO but maybe how he thought he could reconnect to her even though the former portions weren’t real.
We stopped watching about halfway through because of those exact reasons. The movie could have been great, but was put together badly.
My wife and I agreed on an opinion: The director seemed forced to make it a musical because Gaga. Honestly, she wasn’t half bad in the role she was playing, but the musical style turned the entire thing into a Gaga tribute which wasn’t what anybody wanted to see.
Oh, “Didn’t connect with the audiences” is the new “this was shit”? Or is it like modern art, where it is the observers failure to appreciate color thrown randomly at the canvas as beautiful, vibrant, or whatever?
Honestly, her take sounded quite a bit more reasonable than that. If your an artist, your art isn’t going to connect with everyone all the time, and you have to be ok with that. A lot better than the normal blaming and bullshit that usually goes around when a movie bombs.
I have to admit that I have not seen that movie, but everybody who has seen it so far that I’ve talked to had a rather negative opinion of it. For me, that is a clear sign that it is shit, and polishing it with words like “it does not connect with everybody” does not turn the turd into gold.
It did come off as being a middle finger to those who idolize popular media characters whose entire point is a warning not to idolize them, so that part was definetly achieved. It didn’t manage to do it while also being a great film. Mission failed successfully
I rather liked it
